woodenfeather Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 Hi Guys, I just tried powder paint for the first time and I'm really impressed! Talk about instant gradification. I have a couple of questions though. Have any of you figured out a good way to make eyes on say a round ball jig. I tried dabbing a little vinyl paint on but the powder paint dissolved underneath. Same w/ spraypaint. Ok so the stuff is pretty sensative to solvents. My main problem is I tied a bunch of jigs up and didn't notice that the head cement I was using was turning the stuff to mush also. I can't be alone here. Is there a type of glue I can use that won't react to the stuff? Any help is appreciated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gr8flyz Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 There are water based head cements available, but they're generally more expensive than regular head cements. Loon Products makes some good one's, and they're waterproof after they dry. I use Sally Hansens Hard As Nails finger nail polish for head cement most of the time, and haven't had a problem with it dissolving powder paint. I also use Pro's Soft Bait Glue for a lot of my tying, especially hair jigs and it doesn't react with powder paint, but you do have to be careful with it. It's very thin, and will "wick" right up into hair or feathers if you use too much. You also have to watch you don't glue your fingers to a jig head! For painting eyes on powder paint use enamel. I use a hobby enamel made by plasti-kote called Odds N Ends. It comes in spray cans or 2 oz jars, and I even use it to paint hard foam fly poppers. It dries fast & doesn't react with the foam or powder paints. The color selection is not bad either. Plasti-kote has a website www.plasti-kote.com/ and a list of dealers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenfeather Posted December 13, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2003 Thanks alot for the info. Gr8flyz! I knew there was some more supplies I needed to buy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gr8flyz Posted December 13, 2003 Report Share Posted December 13, 2003 You're welcome! BTW, that's a great looking jig! Looks like a cross between a Rubber Legs Woolly Bugger and a Rabbit Matuka! I'll have to try something like that, I'll bet it's a great Smallie jig! I've tied Woolly Bugger jigs, and rabbit strip jigs, but never though to add the rabbit strip in that manner and combine the two! Excellent job!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celticav Posted December 15, 2003 Report Share Posted December 15, 2003 Great looking jig woodenfeather, You got some tying skills thats for sure. Like Gr8flyz, I have been using that soft bait glue also with great results, Mr. Hester mentioned the thinness of it in passing but as usual with his posts you should pay close attention to everything he says because if he bothers to type it then it is well worth remembering to save you a problem or two in the future, that stuff is like water thin and will surprise you at first if you are not expecting it... ZapAGap, another super-glue type will work very well too... and while I haven't used the Hard as Nails stuff yet, I do use a clear finger nail polish about the same thing over the glue to give the threads a nice "bead-like" look (Another trick I learned from Gr8flyz and Deadly Streamer).I have known people to use 2 ton also, even over the powder paint, to hold threads, eyes, etc, I have even done this myself on occasion, but it can be a pain turning the fly to make sure it is laying down and not running into the material. Something Big Splash mentioned to me a couple of years ago was that you could paint the threads, then cover with Hard as Nails, epoxy, clear enamel (clear laquer too, but it may react to the powder so test this one), this was a great tip and really makes any wraps look almost glass-like if one of the really clear-drying ones are used over it. Do you have a website yet or a photopage of your hand tied stuff?? Again great jig, really nice mix of materials and styles... that would catch alot of bass on many of our waters here... can't wait to see some more pics of your stuff, JIM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenfeather Posted December 15, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2003 Thanks for the compliments guys, and the tips! I think part of my problem was I didn't cure them properly in the oven. I did another batch and they seem much more impervious to the glue. I also tried some of that soft plastic glue and i'm not having the same problems. I haven't tried the enamel paint Gr8flyz suggested but suspect it should work fine. Thanks again for your help. Celticav, I do not have a website or a photo page. This place is pretty much my only means of showing off my stuff. When it comes to computers I'm at a loss. My younger brother is an absolute computer genius and I am trying to get him to help me out but he speaks a language that I don't quite understand. I'll will let you know if I do get something going but since I don't really sell any of my baits it probably won't be any time soon.......Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celticav Posted December 15, 2003 Report Share Posted December 15, 2003 You can get a free photo page with Yahoo, geocities, etc, easy to set up just follow directions, feel free to email me if I can help. It isn't always about selling your lures, sometimes it is just great to show them off. JIM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...