VMAXX Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 I've been experimenting with Valspar crackle finish with little to no success, I've searched the net,searched this forum,sprayed numerous pieces of pvc(test blanks)..... I'm pulling my hair out with no success:mad:. Im spraying a base coat,applying the valspar then shooting a moderate coat over with no luck. Am I missing something here and is the coat Im spraying to lite? The instructions with the finish kinda makes you think your topcoat has to be brushed on? Thanks Stacey:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodieb8 Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 heres how we do crackle. seal bait primer. base coat color. dip crackle let dry 45 minutes. then dip next color. let dry. apply clear coat. crackle will crack to an individual way on each one. applying soft heat will advance cracking. hope it works for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodfishsticks Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 base coat...has to be high gloss[spray can]any color..then while it's wet spray a coat of flat paint on[any color]...what happens is the gloss takes longer to dry while the flat dries fast..the flat will slide over the gloss crackling as it goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 I don't think you need to brush on the topcoat, that's just instructions for the typical furniture painter. I assume you're using acrylic paint. I used a brand from Michael's Craft shops formulated for acrylics. I spray and dry the base coat, brush on the crackle medium, then spray the topcoat. If I dry the topcoat slowly, I get small crackles. If I dry it quickly, they're large. The trick is getting both sides to resemble one another. I haven't quite gotten that part down yet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMAXX Posted May 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 Thanks guys I'll keep plugging along, Bob it is acrylic paint I'll check Micheals tommorow maybe for something a litttle more compatible:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizza Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 base coat...has to be high gloss[spray can]any color..then while it's wet spray a coat of flat paint on[any color]...what happens is the gloss takes longer to dry while the flat dries fast..the flat will slide over the gloss crackling as it goes. I just found this out by accident on the bottom of a foiled crank and it turned out quite good. I'm looking forward to playing around with this technique. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 Forgive me for being thick, but does the crackle paint dry and crackle before you top coat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizza Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 on mine it happened before any clear coats. I used cheap flat off white spray paint from odd lots on top of krylon brushed metallic spray paint. Got to watch it crackle which was pretty cool. Looking forward to experimenting. you could also probably get a crackle(or other cool) effect by using different types of paints on top of each other before they are dry. The flat paint I used was enamel, not sure about the krylon. Are most spray paints enamels? Or some acrylics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizza Posted May 26, 2008 Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 I haven't been able to reproduce the crackle. I'm getting only a very small amount now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUCBOS Posted May 26, 2008 Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 Is this the kind of crackle you are loking for? I'm not sure if there are kinds of crackle or not, but this is done with the scrapbooking stuff from hobby lobby that ladies use to crackle pcitures. Easy to do, base coat, crackle paint (dip, brush or spray, top color. I used createx paint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMAXX Posted May 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 Yeah thats it ducbos thanks!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUCBOS Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 VMAXX I got mine at Hobby Lobby. It is a small one bottle solution found in the scrapbooking section. I heard about it on TU. The one I have, you just paint the base (I use createx for all) Then paint over it with the crackle paint. Let dry Paint top color (again createx) The cracking begins as soon as the second spray coat starts to hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJ Smith Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 Thanks ducbos!! I tried it over the weekend with some great looking results.... No pics yet but the stuff works like a charm........ Again..... Thank you:worship: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUCBOS Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 BJ take a close look at that Spring Crawfish rattle trap in the pocture I attached on the comment and tell me what you think. I wanted to make it look more like a craw and added a strand of rubber skirt as well as putting the eyes on the back so it moves like a craw. I caught a lot on it this spring, and I'm now working on a summer one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJ Smith Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Ducbos, I did take a close look at them and that is exactly the effect I have been looking for. They look great!! The two I did up last weekend turned out better than I expected. Both were lipless cranks (Kinami and a trap). The Kinami started with an opaque yellow, then the krackle followed by createx bright transparent red...... I am calling it the lava flow.... The trap has a base of Parma Fastchange Blue, then the krackle, then the shoulders were finished with createx medium gray........ Looks just like a lightening storm. I have no idea whether or not they will catch a fish but then look great on this end..... If I can find some time to finish them up, I might be able to take a picture or two... Again.... Thank you for sharing...... BJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRANKNTN Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 Are you guys spraying the crackle? I tried brushing it a while back with not so good results. The stuff is water based so I don't see why you couldn't thin with water and spray it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJ Smith Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 I brushed it on then let it set for about 15 minutes then sprayed the second paint.. Worked great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizza Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 hey DUCBOS can you be specific about what you bought (brand, what exactly it is called, size, and cost). Does anyone see any reason why it wouldn't work with rattle can paint? thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svepop Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 Didn't work for me with rattle can enamel paint...just trying to see if it would. Crackle bottle says to use over acrylic paint. As long as you stick to acrylic type paint it should work. I bought Delta Crackle medium 2 oz. $1.99 and Folk Art crackle medium 4 oz $2.99..they were out of Deco Art 2oz. $1.99 at Hobby Lobby...IMO works easiest to just brush on and let dry...Delta says to not let completely dry...Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRANKNTN Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 When I brushed on the crackle, it did not level like Devcon and left brush strokes. It looked terrible brushed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUCBOS Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 What I have is FolkArt under $2 at Hobbby Lobby. 4 oz bottle #695 Don't worry how the crackle coat looks. It is not a clear coat like the final Devcon. You're going to cover over it ant that layer of paint will crack. It;s made for acrylic paint not vinyl or lacquer. BJ's got - just give it about 15 minutes then spray the second color. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUCBOS Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 When I started with the Crackle thing I was trying to work out a way to paint baits like JAMAL does with all the mixed color swirls. Does anyone know how that is done? He hasn't decided to share the secret yet, but someone here will figure it out I'm sure. I thought the crackle would work well for crayfish looking baits, but would love to see other ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stclairbaitco Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 Swirl paint effect. What i do is i cut the top off a 2 liter bottle fill it with water then drip enamel paint on the surface 2 or 3 colors then stir the colors together and dip in the lure and twist it on the way out.This one i dipped multiple times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 That is really creative! A fascinating paint job. How'd you ever think of a method like that? I'm jealous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUCBOS Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 AGRAFOLA tHANKS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
