Artificial All The Way Posted June 11, 2008 Report Share Posted June 11, 2008 (edited) Just made a 9 part sluggo mold. Crazy glued 9 sluggo's to a plastic pool filter winter cover. Taped cardboard around the sides and filled. Just need to do a little cleaning and sealing. Just ordered a gal of 500 and found several bins of crayons. I'm freaken hooked on this. Also I find it saves me even on the ones that get trashed. I just pop the hook through the very top of the sluggo so it hangs free. Gives me very good action that way and stays just sub surface where I want it. After casting for a while they rip the hook out and the sluggo goes flying. Now I motor over to them and pick them up to re melt. Last trip to the water I tossed off and had fish rip off 9 sluggo's. Got 7 back to re melt. Very cool. Little clean up and I'm good to go Edited June 11, 2008 by Artificial All The Way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted June 11, 2008 Report Share Posted June 11, 2008 Looks good to me. Just got to clean up the edges (carefully) and seal. By George, I think you've got it,lol. www.novalures.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedHed Posted June 11, 2008 Report Share Posted June 11, 2008 AATW WOW - excellent baits. Waaay ahead of the game..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outdooradvantage Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 Very, very nice looking. Good job........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallie Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 Want an easy way to clean up the edges? Go to Walmart and buy a pack of those finger nail files that are like a piece of cardboard with sandpaper glued to it. Works great on POP. After you use both side of one end, cut it off and you have a fresh new end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBassBo Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 Very nice:worship: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artificial All The Way Posted June 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 Thanks guys. you turkeys got me hooked. 1am last night I was in my outbuilding melting diff tails to Sluggo's looking for my next favorite lures. I cleaned it up and did the first coat of sealer. I'll bake it on and then add three more. Calling up right now for yet ANOTHER gallon of 500. My buddies are busting my stones in a major way for these. they love all the colors they can't buy in the stores. They also love the fact that mine they get for free. Try using the plastic with NO color. The clear ones are really paying off for me and I have not seen any plastics clear in the stores. I have tried them in day and night with good results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 If you are giving them away you'll have more friends than you thought you had. At least charge them enough to cover your cost, including elec. www.novalures.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrokenPaddle Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Thanks guys. you turkeys got me hooked. 1am last night I was in my outbuilding melting diff tails to Sluggo's looking for my next favorite lures. I'm a huge slug-go fan myself and they don't offer any great colors and the tackle shops usually on carry a few packs anyhow. I prefer a slug-go to a senko anyday. You've inspired me to go ahead and use the SEARCH button here to find out the steps to make that mold! Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longhorn Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Don't know if you're hooking the sluggo at the nose or in the middle. If you're hooking it in the middle wacky style you might try using an o-ring and hooking to that. It works wonders on senkos. The bait will last a very long time, even when catching a bunch of fish. Your baits look great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HJS Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 Arty all the way - Very nice looking mold and lures. Oh yeah... you are definitely hooked. Matter of fact I'd say you are probably gut hooked like the rest of us. I'm assuming you made your mold from plaster of Paris?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artificial All The Way Posted July 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 I prefer to hook the Sluggo's just a half inch in from the tip. Poke the straight shank 5 to 8/0 hook right through and let the lure hang free on the hook. GREAT action this way. no need for a tail hook. Bass suck them down like candy. I've hooked thousands of bass this way. As for the mold. That was POP. i've made several dozen since. Yes, I'm whacked. Tried just about everything I could find to make molds. I like fiberglass resin the best. Didn't care much for the DP felt it was to soft. As you can see in this shot below I broke a few test molds taking them apart to quickly. This was a clean bench before I came out to play after getting home from fishing at 2am. Another 6 of Heinekens and 2 gals of plastic, Half a bag of POP, gal of resin, can of DP, the 2 pots I taped and so on. So I made a little mess. LOL Look at the mold in the pic that is half Bondo and half Resin (pink and brown). Testing which gave best results I figured I would use both in one mold. Couple LG sluggo's and 11" Yums. Both materials (bondo and resin) made very nice molds. I'm now only testing with resin amnd then going right to Aluminum. I have some very cool stuff going on but want to get all set up beofre even starting to sell anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slipperybits Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 (edited) Hey, tried to PM you but it said your storage is full Curious as to how you combined the fg resin and bondo into a single mold. Did you do a layer of bondo, then a layer of resin? Is bondo the same thing as water putty? If not would this be a useful substitute because i just bought 2 tubs of the stuff. I will be using soft bait masters to build my moulds. Wondering about the properties of the resin. Would it release easily when using soft baits to create the mould? Would i need to a release agent on the bait and surface of the two halves of the mold with resin? Appreciate any advice you can offer. Cheers Jim Edited July 7, 2009 by slipperybits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96dak Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 Resin and "Bondo" are both polyester based products, and use the same catalyst (MEKP), you mix the 2 together before adding the hardener, it will thicken up the resin and actually prevent a lot of the shrinkage inherent in resin (which will shrink 7 - 10% while curing) No "Bondo" is not the same as waterputty. you wont have to use a release agent with resin, as far as ive experienced the plastic will not stick to it. the majority of people here have been using the cheapest and subsequently the worst quality resin on the market to make their molds, this resin actually has a wax in it that rises to the surface during the curing process, so everything should be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artificial All The Way Posted July 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 Hey, tried to PM you but it said your storage is fullCurious as to how you combined the fg resin and bondo into a single mold. Did you do a layer of bondo, then a layer of resin? Is bondo the same thing as water putty? If not would this be a useful substitute because i just bought 2 tubs of the stuff. I will be using soft bait masters to build my moulds. Wondering about the properties of the resin. Would it release easily when using soft baits to create the mould? Would i need to a release agent on the bait and surface of the two halves of the mold with resin? Appreciate any advice you can offer. Cheers Jim I was trying to buy a cutter from Bojon and 3 PM's is all you get. LOL The Bondo is just that. Car Bondo. Works pretty good. Yes, I just let the bondo harden and poured the fiberglass resin right over it. No release needed on the plastics for either. Mold is like all one. Not even a line where they meet. Resinb is just a little smoother. I can wet sand each to make them smoother if needed just like you would if it was on a car or boat. I pay like 36 bucks a gal for the resin. Only issue I have with it is if you add to much hardener to more than an inch thickenss it cracks in half as it hardens. As in your one piece is now 2. For cost and ease you can't beat POP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticpaul Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 for a thicker laminate ( resin mold thickness) you'd be better off to use less than recommended mekp, or mix a talc through it. this will help stabilise the resin, also when buying resin ask about exothermal reaction temps. you really want one that will peak very low. Also there is so many types of resin and most people will be familiar with polyester resin but there is also a "casting" and "tooling" resin, casting resin is for exactly that (casting molds) and is a lot more stable and is often an epoxy,, tooling resin is a resin normally used in the production of boat molds and can handle alot higher temps and wont chip or crack as easy. Polyester resin itself is not a structural material and can be brittle and unstable. By the way i like you're molds and i've been reading a bit on here for a few months, you seem to know what you're doing and i've learnt a few things from this thread so i thought i'd pass on my knowledge, keep up the dedication! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artificial All The Way Posted July 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 Thanks Paul. I am no where near many of the pros on here when it comes to plastics knowledge. Just warming up. I am a very fast learner and can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticpaul Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 im not from the U.S. so i cant help you with brands sorry, im sure if you told a supplier what you whrere using it for the'd point you in the right direction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Prager Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 I don't know if they have what you're looking for but check it out. Smooth-On - Mold Making and Casting Materials for a World of Applications! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticpaul Posted July 15, 2009 Report Share Posted July 15, 2009 there is a castable epoxy resin on there, i didnt read too much on it, epoxy is alot worse for you than other polyester resins so wear a respirator or very well ventilated area epoxy i pretty expensive too, but so is tooling resin, i'm trying to find a low heat or slow cure vinyl resin to test also. haha i baked a test mold last night with polyester resin, cracked the whole thing and melted the plastics i was casting:nono:, all sorts of trouble, that'll teach me for being impatient and not measuring catalyst:nono:. would have been a wicked prototype too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky Posted July 15, 2009 Report Share Posted July 15, 2009 Thanks Paul. I am no where near many of the pros on here when it comes to plastics knowledge. Just warming up. I am a very fast learner and can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artificial All The Way Posted July 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2009 Thanks Husky. Just pulled that mold out last night when I was testing new colors. I poured a few from it and will send them to. Waiting on a couple orders of new colors before I bom you. That is a very light but very strong material. How soft is it when you mix it? Like resin or bondo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky Posted July 15, 2009 Report Share Posted July 15, 2009 Thanks Husky. Just pulled that mold out last night when I was testing new colors. I poured a few from it and will send them to. Waiting on a couple orders of new colors before I bom you. That is a very light but very strong material. How soft is it when you mix it? Like resin or bondo? It's a 2 part Resin that has the consistency of milk. It sets in about 3 minutes. It catches every detail but I'd recommend a little worm oil when pouring baits. $69 gets you a 2 gallon (14 lb) kit. TIA for the "Care Package". Mike P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticpaul Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 I got 4kg of polyester casting resin, catalyst and a 25kg bag of a talc type product(only size they had). total cost: around US$ 70 (rough conversion as im not in the US). Should be cheaper over there. I've used around 1 kg and have made molds for 6'' stick bait 5'' stick bait 2x3'' stick baits, a 5'' swim bait 3''' swim bait and 2x 2'' swim baits... all in 2 molds, there curing now and nearly done, ill post pics when theyre done and ive poured a few.... looks the goods so far...8O8O8O8O8O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticpaul Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 these are the molds that i made with 1 kg of casting resin, i probably could have used less but it doesnt really bother me.... not a bad finish either 100ml made one of each lure with a fair bit left over.... still playing with different resins, next mold i'll try without talc and compare notes on here. Catalyst was at 2% at around 19 degrees celcius, not sure wat that is in farenheit. hopes this helps you out.... oh yeah, the first lot were a bit sticky in the mold, i sprayed some cooking oil in there and it comes out sweet now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
