scbassman28 Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 I made my first pour tonight. Did not turn out good. I have calhoun 1207 plastic. I added some softener to it. I think that I should have left that out. The worms were really soft and sticky even after sitting for 30 minutes. Anyone else have this kind of experience with this. If so what should I do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delw Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 how much did you add? what else did you add in to the baits? salt scent ect ect. If your trying to pour a bait with out salt and its sticky sounds like either way to much softener or you didnt shake the plastic enough. if you had salt in the bait then you may have added too much softener for the salt you put in or you didnt shake it up enough. important thing is did you shake the plastic up well enough and How much softener did you add and what else did you put in the plastic, with out that its only guessing games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveh Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 if your just making worms i would leave out the softener. add just a little salt or no salt so it will still float off the bottom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 Dave, I just watched your "How to Pour" tutorial and it was excellent! I haven't poured anything since I used to pour surf sinkers thirty years ago, mainly because I had never seen it done or explained, but now I feel comfortable giving pouring plastics a shot. I'll probably start by reusing a few pounds of worms that I have in the garage. Any suggestions regarding reusing old plastics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captsully18 Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 Mark, I have never had good results melting old worms just as they are. If you are gonna use them, add some of them to fresh plastic after it has reached pouring temp. Every time I used just the worms the resulting baits were extremely hard, expecially if I happened to mix worms from different companies. Never know the formulation that various co.s use in their baits and mixing them may cause most of the problem. But, what do I know, I'm just a good ole Ky hillbilly. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 David, I have a ton of torn up Robo, Yum, Zoom, and Yamamoto plastics. What kind of plastic should I buy to use as a starting base? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captsully18 Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 David,I have a ton of torn up Robo, Yum, Zoom, and Yamamoto plastics. What kind of plastic should I buy to use as a starting base? Mark, I would start with a soft plastic from most any of the companies, maybe even M-F super soft. Try about a 50/50 mix ( 4oz. soft plastic and add worms [cut into short lengths to aid melting] to reach 8oz. or 2oz. plastic up to 4oz. Then you can adjust to suit your taste. I would not mix the various makes, but try each one to see how they come out. jmho David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captsully18 Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 Hey, I should add that perhaps Delw, Nova, or one of the resident experts may jump in here and correct me if I am wrong. Hope they do, I would like to read what they have to say on this topic. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 Thanks David. I'll give it try, and let you know what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HJS Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 scbassman28 - Can't help you out there. I'm still remelting old plastics. Mark - So far I'm using only old plastics to make new plastics... mostly because I really like hobbies and REALLY like to save money. I had been saving old and damaged plastics for several years, segregated to color to avoid bleeding, knowing full well that I would eventually get into pouring my own. My first self-taught attempts at making molds and pouring plastics was an abysmal failure. Then I found this site and all is good now. To make a long store short... using scissors, I chop up old plastic, into bean sized chunks and put them in my melting container and place in the microwave. I start with 20 second burst of full power eventually dropping down to 5 seconds as the plastics approach pouring temps and all chunks are totally melted. Takes a couple of minutes. Stir briefly after each power burst. Too much time at full power and the plastic will suddenly burn looking like a marshmallow that fell in the campfire. The vast majority of my old plastics are either Bass Assassins or 9" & 12" trolling sassy shads. Also, I use pretty much only 3-4 colors. So my variety of plastic types is very simple. When melting, I keep the 2 types separate. Big trolling sassies are a little harder formula than Bass Assassins. I'm almost out of old plastics and may actually have to purchase a jug of virgin plastic to continue my newfound passion. Don't bother me with the fact that I now have a 5 year supply of new poured plastics... I gotta keep pouring!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 Hjs, Thanks for the tips. I'll probably try just old plastics first, and see how it goes. I'm in deep enough as it is just making wooden hardbaits! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 David; I haven't used remelts for years now. I prefer not to do it as you cannot repeat what you get. That being said; I would suggest that you add a little bit of good plastic to the pot before you remelt. This should help to not overheat the worms that you are trying to melt down. www.novalures.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scbassman28 Posted June 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2008 One more question on this post. What would cause the glitter to settle to the bottom of the worm instead of being all through the worm? I mixed well before I poured the worm. I just could not figure out what I am doing wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zbass Posted June 27, 2008 Report Share Posted June 27, 2008 The larger glitters will settle in the pour. I use mostly MF glitter and the larger ones do do that. If you plan for that, you can make some really good affects with it. If you can get by with one size smaller glitter, your problem won't be as bad. Maybe there is another kind of glitter out there that won't do that. If there was a place to find out, this is it. Zbass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delw Posted June 27, 2008 Report Share Posted June 27, 2008 One more question on this post. What would cause the glitter to settle to the bottom of the worm instead of being all through the worm? I mixed well before I poured the worm. I just could not figure out what I am doing wrong. the weight of the glitter vs how hot your plastic is. have your plastic a little cooler and it will suspend fine. there is a pro and con of using metal glitters. the one main con is that it sinks faster than regular glitter, however it doesnt bleed at higher temps. if you have a bait that uses alot of plastic and takes a while to cool down then you will also have the problem of glitter sinking , so in taht case you would need t run less heat ( may not work) or use poly glitters which will may or may not bleed, its all about trial and error. Delw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveh Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 when i first started pouring i melted down a bunch of store bought stuff. some smelled more than others but it was a good learning experience. now i just use the good stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HJS Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 Ok guys, I have a question about metallic glitter and microwaves. I've heard, an experienced first hand, that microwaves do NOT like metal things put in them. (I once tried to defrost a load of bread in our microwave with the wire twisty still attached... lots of zapping noises and plastic smoke!!!). So... how does the addition of metallic glitter to plastics jive with the workings of a microwave??? So far I've only remelted old Bass Assassins that I'm guessing have plastic glitter... so far no problems. Might metalic glitter super heat and melt their way to the bottom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
