ghost Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 As if roadside bombs, suicide bombers, and car bombs are not enough the terrorists have found a new way to get to our troops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KcDano Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 You probally meant no harm when posting that picture. But think about it! What humor is there in the fact people are dying daily or left less than whole for the rest of their life as a result of the conflict in Iraq. That picture casts American servicemen in a bad light, suggesting they are something lesser than human. Driven by instinctual behaviour which they have no power over. I am sure a moderator will delete it shortly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 You probally meant no harm when posting that picture. But think about it! What humor is there in the fact people are dying daily or left less than whole for the rest of their life as a result of the conflict in Iraq. That picture casts American servicemen in a bad light, suggesting they are something lesser than human. Driven by instinctual behaviour which they have no power over. I am sure a moderator will delete it shortly American Servicemen built the trap for a joke and then took pictures to share are you going to question their poor taste? Do they need to think about what really is going on outside of the base? Perhaps you need to write to the soldier and explain how displeased you are with his poor judgement? Maybe lecture them on wasting the tax payers dollar. Take it what it is. A joke that a group of American Servicemen built for fun to get a laugh. If they get a little pleasure out of building stuff like that and manage to escape the reminder they are away from family and friends I hope they build thousands of traps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KcDano Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 In an effort to be fair. I searched for the image online. It was at Military News Military History Military PHOTO VIDEO under the joke section. So perhaps it was intended to be a joke. However,the page was devoid of any commentary regarding the numerous other means the terrorist have employed to snuff out a soldier. So I will take it as such and if I have caused harm to you, Ghost please accept my apology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diemai Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 Though I do not quite agree with the present US policy overseas , I really don't find it funny to be joking on the destiny of so many young men ! I rather see those as humans , not as soldiers . Think about it , diemai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike-A-Pike Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 There are some things that fall under the heading of a solder's right. The right to use "comic relief" to remind one another to keep alert can be a un-nerving to the uninitiated. When I was on active duty, I spread my fair share of comic relief... Some fond memories include several T-shirts: An image of a F-4 Phantom loaded for bear and coming toward you in full afterburners. The caption was simple, bold, and to the point... "Worlds largest distributor of MiG Parts" An image of an American ICBM launching from a hardened bunker and the caption, "Peace though Superior Firepower" Just to mention a few... some memories never die Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost Posted July 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 Well I can tell you as a service member who served 2 tours in Iraq and also a year in Korea on the DMZ that it was meant as a joke and without taking the time to do things such as in the picture you will lose your mind over there. If you are not out on mission you are sitting in a crouded tent or building just as if you are in prison. So if it offended you I do apologize but you need to realize that humor is what gets most service members through there tours of duty. I know we did numerous things such as in the photo and sent them to our loved ones to show them that we are doing ok and still have a level head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KcDano Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 No problem here! It's a done deal. Sorry that I have caused such disruption over an innocuous image. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahn427 Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 ....... Knock Knock Knock ........ HELLO ........ in case you didn't notice .......... THIS IS A TACKLEBUILDING WEBSITE ......... Stop the political stuff ......... people come here to get away from that ........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike-A-Pike Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 ....... Knock Knock Knock ........ HELLO ........ in case you didn't notice .......... THIS IS A TACKLEBUILDING WEBSITE ......... Stop the political stuff ......... people come here to get away from that ........ Actually according to the SITE RULES, #5 Off topic posts: all posts must go in their respective forum, if you're unsure of a forum destination for your post, put it in "The Docks" (our general off-topic forum). So actually, this is exactly where it is supposed to go. You can even make your "political observations" without the fear of a police state taking you away, that's FREEDOM, that's The Docks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diemai Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 (edited) @ ghost So if this is about a sort of "black humour" amongst servicemen , that are locked together in threatening and hazardous situations over there , I can fully understand , they would take(or even need) this kind of stuff to play over their own concerns and fears . But it should remain behind the camp's gates in my opinion , amongst the men concerned , it is nothing for the wide public . If I should have upset you with my post , I apologize:yes: , as a mid-aged German , that is quite interested in history , I just tend to think different about anything concerning the military . greetz , Dieter Edited July 2, 2008 by diemai wrong text Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Bait Co. Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 The thing that up sets me in this picture is their using a German beer ( far as I can tell) on a U.S. base. Shouldn't it be a Budwiser. Doesn't German beer cost more now that wasting taxpayers money. (lol) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost Posted July 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 More than likely I would guess the beer is a English brand from England. Alcohol is readily available but most if not all that we were able to acquire was English. The few Liquor stores that they have in Iraq do not sell any U.S. brands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diemai Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 You can't waste money on German beer , since it's good stuff ! It is still brewed after a restriction from the 16th century , that it should not contain nothing but hops , malt and water , absolutely no artificial or chemical adds of any kind ! If you drink two sixpacks , you'll feel the difference the next morning , wether it was pure , genuine German beer or some other stuff with rice , corn , various E ??? food additives and God knows what in it . Don't know about American beer , since I haven't tried it yet , but above mentioned happened to me several times with different European beers:sauced: . And as far as I'm concerned , some big American breweries were also founded by German brewers . Cheers , diemai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KcDano Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 (edited) Reinheitsgebot I believe they have relaxed the law for beers brewed for export. Edited July 3, 2008 by KcDano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philB Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 No problem here! It's a done deal. Sorry that I have caused such disruption over an innocuous image. Dan This is a forum after all and comment whether contentious or not is what keeps these places alive and kicking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KcDano Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 Phil, so right you are! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diemai Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 @ KcDano This maybe true , but I can't tell for sure . At least over here quite a few years ago there was a great public discussion about importing foreign beers not made after that restriction , the "Reinheitsgebot" . BTW : As far as I'm concerned , it was established around 1550 by a Bavarian earl or count to protect his people from health damage , because already in those days ruthless moneymakers didn't care about the welfare of others to make profit . And beer was consumed rather more back then as it is today , scientists found out about this from old household files and bills and stuff , but they often used to thin it with water . So , as far as I'm concerned , these foreign brands were only allowed to sell over here , if they are made accordingly to the tradition . I guess to protect our own breweries rather than the health of the people ! But never drank some of those beers , that became quite fashionable amongst younger people nowadays , always stayed with our locally brewed brands , which is widely done over here . There are different tastes of beer in different parts of the country , and we have a few great breweries , but hundreds of smaller ones . Cheers , diemai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KcDano Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 The local breweries are making a comeback here! The were virtually all gone after that wonderful time in American history known as prohibition had come to pass. The large breweries began a campaign of rapid expansion aided by the advent of refrigerated freight cars and all but crushed the littlle breweries. I don't think I have met a German beer I didn't like. Some better that others! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diemai Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 Remember a trip by car 27 years ago from Hamburg to the French mediterranian coast , we had a stopover for the night in Freiburg , close to the French and Swiss border . In a bar there I ordered for a "Weizenbier" , never came accross this stuff back then , a very sparkling , foamy stuff , having a yeasty flavor . They pour it from bottles into a longer , conical glass in a special way , so that the foam won't spill . As the lady behind the bar put a lemon slice into the glass , I almost shouted at her , that "why the heck she's putting lemon into my beer" ! She was astonished and little shocked , stammering "but , but ,...... it's supposed to be....!" By now this southern kind of beer has conquered the entire country , nobody would argue with the bartender anymore about lemonslices in the beer ! Cheers , diemai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 I may be wrong, but I think the lemon wiped on the glass was to break surface tension. If it is the same as the stuff I remember, it is very lively. A definite skill to pouring it and very embarrassing when you get it wrong. The stuff I was drinking was Erdinger weissbier and there was a dunkel, a dark beer. The weissbier was a cloudy, which was off putting at first, but after half a dozen, it didn't seem to matter. Come to think about it, I cannot remember much about that contract, except what to order at the bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diemai Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 @ Vodkaman Indeed , it is that stuff , I was talking about , but I never liked it that much , but they say , that it is rather refreshing in hot weather . Many people here up north go for the big native brands , "Holsten" and "Astra" from Hamburg , also "Flensburger" from same-named city located at the Danish border . First mentioned "Holsten Edel" was ever nicknamed " Maurer-Brause" aroud here , in English "Bricklayer's Lemonade" . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KcDano Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 The lemon slice I suppose could knock the head down on the beer or cover up something less palatable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost Posted July 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 As someone who is not much of a beer drinker but reigns in the Beer Capitol of North America I can say that you are correct. Pretty much all brewery's here in Wisconsin were founded by German Immigrants. I would safely bet that Wisconsin has the largest amount of people of German descent in the U.S. I have been all over the world and this is the only place where beer is used as a tool to draw people to events. Even Churches use beer as a tool to get people to attend functions. It is quite entertaining, but my wife who is from California where life is the exact opposite does not find the humor in it as I do. Go Figure!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike-A-Pike Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 One of my favorite times of the year in WI was 4H County Fair time and the fall harvest. We would feast on cold boch beer, fresh roasted corn, brats, and northern style baked beans. I've heard that back in the 50s and 60s, Wisconsin had almost 200 small brewerys, mostly with German origins. Das schmeckt gut und kalt. Kann ich ein anderes Bier haben? "That tastes good and cold. Can I have another beer?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
