Ogajiga Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 I'm getting burned out with forum posts requesting product or info which I respond to publicly or by PM and never get a reply. I wonder if my offer of solution is a good or bad idea and why? Am I expecting too much? - any opinions would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basseducer Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 I'm with you Hawnjigs, a quick responce would be appriciated even if only to say not interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diemai Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 Not to respond , either positive or also negative , is just not polite:yes: , though someone might simply forget ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazmail Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 Sometimes a thank you (especially to PM's), would be nice, but if this is not forthcoming, it's (to me) a good indication, they are only interested in their own gain, and there is a sucker born every minute - If they did reply, they may be afraid you will want some information in return. I call them 'Black Holes', heaps of information in, none out. There is a guy who posts pictures, on a lot of different forum, breezes in and out, showing off his latest color scheme, BUT NEVER, NEVER answers, PM or Posts - egocentric , I suppose you would call it - saying all this, 'Black Claw' certainly comes up with some excellent techniques/colors.pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagacious Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 (edited) Good lack! When someone takes the time to type out a response to your question, at least have the common courtesy to say, "thanks!" A simple 'thanks' still goes a long way. Words to the wise, as they say. Edited July 7, 2008 by sagacious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reeves Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 I feel the exact same way as you guys do. All too often you will get a PM from a member wanting something. You go out of your way to reply a bunch of info or send a picture, or even give prices only to never even get a 'no thanks' in return, or to find out they only want a half-dozen pieces which isn't enough to melt lead over. Really jerks my chain. I have several earmarked on here that fall into that class. Sorry if you are reading this, you know who you are, but you earned it. In the meantime I will continue helping where I can and maintaining silence where necessary. Whew, that felt good!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagacious Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 Oh yes, I just remembered this one. It's my personal favorite. I get a pm or email or some-such where someone will ask one question, but it soon turns into a million questions. Question after question. Goes something like this: How do you do this, and how did you do that? What about that, and what if this happens? What do you recommend about this, and EXACTLY how should I do that? Could you give me a little more info on this, and could you spell out all the steps for that? Ad infinitum... OK, sounds like a real newbie in need of some guidance. So, wanting to help the lad along, I spell out the details. (A little aside: Remember that assignment you had in grade school, where you had to spell-out all the steps to make a PBJ sandwich-- and you realized it takes two full pages of explanation, starting with, "First, open the fridge..."? Well, that's the sort of exhaustively drawn-out, detailed explanation I'm talking about here.) After spelling out EVERY last little detail, I don't hear back from our 'author of a million questions'. Hmmmm... what gives? So, after a couple weeks go by, I send off an email/pm/whatever inquiring about our newbie's success with the much-discussed technique. And surprisingly often, this is what I would get: Oh hey, thanks for your help. I just decided to do it my own way." Whaaaaaaaaaaa??? Well heck, I coulda given him that advice in the first place! Unless you've been through that mill a few times, you may fail to understand the wisdom behind the reply, "Give it a try, and then let me know if you have any questions. :yay:" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Bait Co. Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 Know I am thinking you guys are like me. Lets say if you go into a gas station and buy a soda. You tell the clerk thank you or have a nice day thoes simple words go a long way. You have to rember some people don't have any manners in this day and age. I am 32 years old and when I was little my father made me say please and thank you. Now I am doing it to my kids. If you look at some people these days it about brakes them to say sorry or thank you. Then the best thing I hear is its their job or its their fault. Somtimes I am a little busy to resond quickly to PM's but I always try and get back to them eaither way. I have people here on TU that I will help any day of the week and some forget about it. Just rember you are on the high road when you help others that what makes you a better person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diemai Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 @ King Bait Co You're so right ! I totally agree:yes: ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazmail Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 KBC - "Just rember you are on the high road when you help others that what makes you a better person." That sounds very Buddhist, I'll go along with that. pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSC Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 Good Thread . But for those that do not respond will continue down the same road ... unfortunealy (SP). You just have to let it slide over your head and go on ... the world is full of those that only take and do not say or know how to accept "Thank You" ... sad. Have a Good Day JSC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaPala Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 KBC - "Just rember you are on the high road when you help others that what makes you a better person."That sounds very Buddhist, I'll go along with that. pete You're almost there Pete. When you can "Give and ask not for returns" is when you ARE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagacious Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 (edited) You're almost there Pete. When you can "Give and ask not for returns" is when you ARE. I hear ya. But what Hawnjigs was talking about when he started this thread was about those who fail to respond with a simple "thanks!" This thread isn't about how we should help those with questions, it's about how they should help themselves by perhaps showing a tiny bit of common courtesy when they receive an answer to their questions. I think we all have to agree that simply saying "thanks!" is soooooooo easy that even the most 'un-zen' of us should be easily able to meet such a standard. If it seems base of me to expect a simple "thank you" for my assistance, well, blame it on my parents. They taught me to always say thanks. Just sayin.... Edited July 7, 2008 by sagacious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike-A-Pike Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 I have really enjoyed reading this thread. I read almost every post, thread, and forum on Tackleunderground at least 2 to 20 times a day. We are lucky to have a very diverse group of Senior Members, Members, and New(bie) Members to exchange ideas, methods, and procedures with. OH, I almost forgot to mention those that infuse a constant source of unrequested pain to that private portion of the anatomy that is rarely risked to possible sunburn, and join the most elite membership status in the ranks of Tackleunderground, those deemed fit to wear the title of "Banned for Life.":boo: One a more positive note; one of the best threads I had the pleasure of reading and learning from was http://www.tackleunderground.com/forum/wire-baits/13893-best-lead-melt-flux.html?highlight=lead. This the perfect model of what a GREAT thread consists of. Generally speaking, the members of TU are very self disciplined and respect other member's right to disagree , have a difference of opinion , or just keep "doing it wrong" - what ever wrong may be. I met a guy today, working on the neighbors place while I was mowing the grass. The specific repair has been required by 3 different owners of the house over the past 12 years. And that was the subject of the initial discussion. We both are of families from the old country and are proud of our heritage, enjoy brats and beer, and the tackle building addiction. After a few minutes of discussion, my neighbor, who real is the salt of the earth, reminded us that my new friend, was on the clock. Ooooops - My BAD . So, he went back to the task at hand and I put my mower in the garage and went to me wire bender, blades, lure bodies, beads, and skirt materials on hand; and built him one of my Pike and Bass in-line spinners and stuck it under his wiper blade:whistle:. Later, he knocked on the door asking, "What's the cost of the spinner?" and was rewarded with a big smile as I gave him the bill, "Just a hand shake." He quickly "paid up" and extended his hand and was verifying the TU web address he had written down. We got that straightened out and after a few more minutes and a parting hand shake, went our separate ways. The only thing it would take to make this a Perfect Day, is to see a new member that is already a new friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 Bruce. Excellent post, I totally agree. I can live with all the bad stuff that goes on here, because it only takes one good gesture to cancel out all the bad stuff. Mac10, you are the man, a private thanks to a real gent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogajiga Posted July 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 (edited) Thanks guys, I feel better about the lack of courtesy issue. Having been there done/doing that, I realize we leave the nest with rough edges and the wisdom of generosity takes time and knocks to understand. I'm embarrassed thinking about the wise mouth "rebel without a clue" that I used to be, and shouldn't judge others. Edit: but as "Reeves" mentioned, guys who waste other's time will reap what they sow. Edited July 7, 2008 by hawnjigs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zbass Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 Being a relative newbie myself, I feel the need to chime in. When I received the first PM, it kinda freaked me out. I am new to the forum thing as a whole. Never talked to anyone thru the internet before.(other than email). I didn't know how to respond or if I even wanted to. Sorry Vodkaman. Thanks for the advice. For the newbies, don't be shy. These people are great, for the most part. Mutual respect is what I have found to exist here and that is in part of what keeps me coming back. The other part is the addiction that is mentioned in almost every 'welcome' post. I totally agree that it only takes a second to say "THANKS". Zbass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 Bruce. Excellent post, I totally agree.I can live with all the bad stuff that goes on here, because it only takes one good gesture to cancel out all the bad stuff. Mac10, you are the man, a private thanks to a real gent. Ditto Bruce, I will agree with Vodkaman here, I for one have sent out 100's of samples to guys that asked to see my work, all I ask is usually some sort of recognition. A thank you, your stuff sucks, anything, but reply somehow, that you at least got the info, or samples. I will say that majority of the guys here are very courteous in that respect. I've only had a few bad experiences. As for the newbies you don't know unless you ask. Majority of the guys here are more than willing to help. If you come with heart in hand, you'll get alot more responses and respect down the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 Just shows respect gets you a long ways in life. Good example is I have a freind that is on a high horse at times. Any thing he buys that has a warranty is never covered. Becase he gos in complaining and yelling. I take the product in for him at a later date and give the person true respect and get the world from them. Trying to lead by example like most hear is the best we can do. I truely hope that every newby reads this thread. A simple thanks will get a side step and extra attention to the task. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diemai Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 Great posts I just read in here , too many to mention:yes: ! Everyone should remember , that those little words "thank you" and "please" enhance the quality of life ! For everyone:yes: ! Greetz , Dieter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 Zbass, absolutely no problem. It took me a while too. At first, I thought,"what use is this function". Now every time I click a page, my eyes automatically scan the PM box! I probably PM more than I post. I seem to be backing them up twice a month sometimes. I have too much pride to believe in zen, but I firmly believe in karma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Bait Co. Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 I just belive in good manners. The wierd thing is hazmail brought up budda. My work is doing the heating and air at a buddist temple they are building. Its just a little freaky! Make you wonder now:? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 Probly some wierd form of Karma kicking in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaPala Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 If it seems base of me to expect a simple "thank you" for my assistance, well, blame it on my parents. They taught me to always say thanks. Just sayin.... Thanks and please is the basic code of conduct for a community like TU. I was refering to Pete's zen moment with my earlier comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Bait Co. Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 Probly some wierd form of Karma kicking in. You never know a strange world we live in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
