.dsaavedra. Posted July 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 @ DSVSorry , but does that mean , that it would work on the polyurethane , or you just tried your coloration only ? Dieter yes, i coated that piece of scrap wood in polyurethane before i painted on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diemai Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 @ DSV So you're ready to go after all section halves are glued together ! Good Success:yay: ! Dieter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.dsaavedra. Posted July 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 yep. they are all epoxied together now and they have past the handling time (2hrs) but they won't reach full strength untill 8hrs after application. in about an hour or so i will paint the lure and take pics for you guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.dsaavedra. Posted July 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 well here is the paint. i still have to paint the head, the inside of the joints, and the entire back side. turned out a little bit darker than i would have liked but i am pleased that i didnt make it look totally rediculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diemai Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 @ DSV I can only say , that you are fast as lightning in procceding your new bait:yes: ! And I strictly believe , that darker colors are better for topwater baits , since the probably cast a better silhouette against the sky for the fish to see from below:yes: ! Can't wait too see it finished ! Dieter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.dsaavedra. Posted July 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 i have the other side painted. still need to paint inside the joints. i really dont know what im going to do with the head. i guess i'll just fade it black to blue to white like the rest of the body. and use black to make the details more pronounced. i call the color: midnight shad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.dsaavedra. Posted July 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 well i got all the paint done. i wanted 3-D eyes but didnt have any so it was time to improvise! i painted a black dot on a piece of aluminum foil and then put a blob of hot glue over it. when the hot glue cooled, it hazed over, which was neat because now it is reflective and hazy, just like a real fish eye. i am pleased with the results tomorrow morning it gets epoxy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FERG DADDY Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 I have to say the eye looks VERY realistic. I sure hope my first swim bait turns out this good, and this quick. I have to remodel my basement before doing another lure so I am hoping to get started around December. Until then I will continue to "go to school" on all of the TU members successes and defeats. FERG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.dsaavedra. Posted July 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 thanks ferg. i was very pleased with the way these eyes turned out. before i made them i considered how hotglue hazes over when its cool, but i decided to go ahead and test out the hot glue idea anyway, and it turned out to work great! cheap, easy 3-D eyes! the most difficult part was centering the pupil in the eye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 Very clever idea, well executed! You must be related to Pete (Hazmail). You both think outside the box! The epoxy topcoat may make the eye more clear. I can't wait to see the finished lure, and hear how it fishes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.dsaavedra. Posted July 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 thanks for the comments guys. i do think outside of the box a lot, mainly because i have limited resources, and i dont like to go to the store and buy every last little thing i need. so i stay at home and imporvise with what i have. i came up with a great idea last night while trying to fall asleep, but i cant think what it was now! hopefully it will come back to me. i remember it was real cool and hadn't beed done before. anyway, the epoxy goes on in a few minutes . im pretty scared. i hate doing epoxy. i am FULLY capable of RUINING a bait with epoxy i am gonna take my time and do this one segment by segment, hopefully i will get a nice even finish. wish me luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.dsaavedra. Posted July 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 i remember what my "great idea" was last night, and i guess i forgot it because i remember dismissing it last night as "not that great". my idea was inorder to create a slow sinking bait without adding a ton of weights, just hollow out the inside of the bait and leave a hole that goes out the top of the lure and seal the inside very well. then when you assemble the bait, be sure not to clog the hole at the top, then when you fish, the bait fills up with water and sinks. probably wouldnt work so great...im not trying it. first coat of epoxy is on the tailsection...no fatalities....yet . in a few hours i will put the first coat on the midsection. this [epoxy drying] is going to be a long, drawn out time period; i think im gonna go ahead and get started on my next bait! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diemai Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 @ DSV The principle of that idea is correct , but I guess , putting it to practise might be finacky , since you have some hardware inside of your lure , that might be in the way for such bores or hollow chambers . Also you need a certain amount of weight to let the lure swim upright or to balance its action . Smaller baits(up to 3") made of less buoyant hardwood might sink , having added all hardware , you won't even need such bores , but it is very hard to predict , rather more a gamble ! But I read something similar in the German edition of a Swedish book about crankbait making : The author described there , how to add buoancy to a lure , either to render a sinker to be floating up or to decrease the sink rate . He'd drill one or more holes in the back portion of the crankbait , fill a little epoxy inside and close the hole with some transparent ,- or plastic tape and then turn the lure to rest back down , until the glue has cured totally . After he'd just peel off the tape and paint it over according to the paint pattern that the crank has . I haven't done this before , I might think , that a pike would probably pierce a hole inside these airchambers , when the epoxy layer should have turned out too thin , so I would try to put some very buoyant material like balsa , foam packing material or similar inside before epoxying . good success furthermore , Dieter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.dsaavedra. Posted July 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 the main reason i wanted to do that water chamber idea is because i wanted a light swimbait (i dont have an actual swimbait rod, im using a rod taht is only rated for 1.5oz) that would sink. i would make it light by hollowing out the chamber which would also make it sink. BUT...in order for it to still be light, i'd have to pour all the water out of the bait before each cast. im not about to waste my time doing that. i put the first coat of epoxy on the midsection. unfortunatley it didnt go as well as the tail section. i started running out of time and epoxy so i got kinda sloppy inside the joints. i also accidentally touched my knuckle to it once or twice when it was drying but that leveled out. but it is still totally covered, just a few small pits in it which will get filled in with the second coat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diemai Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 @ DSV Sorry , seems , that I did not quite understand about your idea , now I did ! You'd have to furnish TWO water release holes , not only one ! They should probably not be smaller in diameter than 1/10" , rather more a bit larger . One would be for water to flow out , the other for air to go in , this way the water would come out rather fast . I guess , it would be best to possibly place them in about paralell to the length axis of the lure , because when you take out the lure to cast again , it would hang tail-down on the line . Then you swing the rod backward , it would still be tail-down during that motion , allowing water to flow out all this time , so that your lure has lost a lot of weight already to be able to cast it with your light rod . The whole affair stands and falls with the size of the hollow chamber(amount of water to release)and the diameter of the TWO holes(speed of release) . Well , these are my theories about this matter:? , good luck , Dieter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.dsaavedra. Posted July 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 your theroies make perfect sense. maybe this isnt such a far-fetched idea after all. still dont know if i am going to try it... maybe i'll just try it on a test piece of wood first and then if it works out, i'll incorperate the idea into a lure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.dsaavedra. Posted July 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 i epoxied the head. it went well. no problems at all with the head! tomorrow i will put the second coats of epoxy on everything and then after 24hrs it will be ready to fish! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted July 15, 2008 Report Share Posted July 15, 2008 I hope you can post some pictures of the lure before you feed it to some monster fish! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.dsaavedra. Posted July 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2008 here are some pics of the finished product (sorry for all the fingerprints on the bait, should have wiped it off first ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishface Posted July 15, 2008 Report Share Posted July 15, 2008 Wow, looks great! Can't wait to hear about your first catch with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted July 15, 2008 Report Share Posted July 15, 2008 Looks good enough to eat! I hope the fish agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diemai Posted July 15, 2008 Report Share Posted July 15, 2008 Well done lure:yay:, and sooooooo...... fast(to me !) Hope , the fish come in as fast as well:yes: ! Greetz , Dieter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.dsaavedra. Posted July 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 well it swims much better in a pond. i found the lower the angle of pull is, the better it swims. the tail section really wiggles, the mid section has a light sway side-to-side, and the head remains forward. didnt fish it much, just tested its action. no fish on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
