bassman843 Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 I came across a deal where I thought I was getting 2 lee plastic pots.when I got them they look just like my lee pot for lead.is there any way the manufacturere could have made a mistake and started making these look the same.or a supplier advertise the same pot to for plastic and for lead.I have gotton my other pots from lure craft and their pots are very different from each other.the lead pot is going to get too hot for plastic. I think that is why the guy got rid of them tried to melt plastic and kept burning it didn't know the difference between the pots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Bait Co. Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 here what I can tell you. The pat # is 3790747, Volts 120, 500 watts a.c. only. Then in the l;ower right hand corner on top of the base it says on a sticker: Warning: Before Plugging In, Set Thermostat to Lowest Setting to Prervent Burning Plastic The new Lee's production pots IV are taller than the old ones but the markings are the same on all my pots old and new. They are all from Lure Craft. You may have a bad part also. I hope that helps in finding out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delw Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 Lee makes 2 pots one for softplastic and one for lead, they are both Identicle (or were 2 years ago) the only difference is the thermostat inside. DONT use the lead pots for plastic as they wont work even on the lowest settting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Brabant Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 I use a Presto pot. Works great. The total cost was about $35. I set the thermostat at 400 and start pouring. As I fill the mold I stir the pot with a wooden paint stick. Next I am puting a motor on to stir for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senkosam Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 I use a Presto pot. Works great. The total cost was about $35. I set the thermostat at 400 and start pouring. As I fill the mold I stir the pot with a wooden paint stick. Next I am puting a motor on to stir for me. 400 - as in degrees?! Wood is not the best stir material IMO(bubbles). I use a steel butter knife. I'm selling my Lee's for 30 bucks on E-Bay. Too much hassle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Brabant Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 Yes degrees. At least that is what the theromstat says. Or a better name is the temp control. I haven't put a thermometer in the melt yet. When I put a cover and electric motor and paddel to stir I am sure i can lower the temp. I also have a nipple on the end of the ball valve that pours a nice stream it's about 2" long. Iam going to wrap the nipple wit insulation as well as the outside of the pot. Try and prevent the heat loss. I can pour a 4 cavity 5" stick in less than 90 seconds. It actually works very well. I was thinking of putting up a viedo of pouring the 4 cavites as I stir the pot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike-A-Pike Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 (edited) I was thinking of putting up a video of pouring the 4 cavities as I stir the pot. ED, You plastics guys are getting pretty high tech these days... daveh has provided two videos to date and my daughter, who is just starting to think of getting into tackle making, thinks they're great. If you have the capability to produce videos, I'm sure they'd make welcomed additions to our growing collection. I'm thinking I may need to provide some information on developing "instructional/training materials" to make the process of putting a tutorial together easier for all you guys that willingly provide us with so much. Just give a shout if I can provide any info. Good luck. Edited July 10, 2008 by Spike-A-Pike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Brabant Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 As a kind of old Tool Maker 48 I just can't resist trying to make something better and faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassman843 Posted July 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 I haven't got that far into getting a presto pot made I would like to get more molds first.I don't like to have to much plastic waiting to be poured waiting for a lure to cure.I pour different mixes for certain lures some lures I like to be soft and some I want to be a little stiffer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Brabant Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 Cooling is my next issue. I am waiting too long for the mold to cool I only have 2 a 5 1/4 and a 4 the the plastic is heating the mold up which is also adding time. I am going to take a granite surface plate I have and put it in an aluminum pan. About the size of the one you cook a turkey in. Then fill the pan up with ice. About half way up the plate. Away from the molten plastic on my cool down bench. With a fan blowing over the mold starting to cool it. When the mold can be placed on it's side I will put it on the garanite surface plate. When I open the mold to remove the baits I am going to place the other half on the plate. that should suck the heat out rather fast. And I will be sure to keep and water from the inside of the cavites and the molten plastic. That could be very messy. as well as painful. But you are right I need MORE MOLDS. I haven't seen an issue with the molten plastic being held at the melt temp for that long. So long as it dosen't over heat there should not be a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senkosam Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 Does anyone else heat their plastic to 400? I thought 325 was hot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flabasspond Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 Senkosam....you have a PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Prager Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 I hardly use it at all but my presto Pot won't pour unless it's on the highest setting. That's without using salt. I don't think 400 really is 400. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Brabant Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 Just put in a thermometer 350 was the highest I got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RipLip Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 I usuallly pour 64oz at a time in the presto pot and I only have it on the highest setting for the initial warm up. Once I get to around 300degrees with a thermometer I turn it down to 325. Once the plastic is at 325 I start to pour. Obviously some colors are different with different glitters and amounts of salt but generally that a good start point on the presto. I have a stirring motor on mine and it works great from start to finish. The only problem I have found is that it takes a long time for a lot of plastic to heat up. When you get your first pour about halfway it is good to hav e another setup because then you start the heat up process on that one. When your done the first pour just move right over and start pouring another color that is ready. My only suggestion is if it is a small room you should install some venting system. It is well worth it and kind of cheap if you do it yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Brabant Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 What are you using for a motor and paddle as well as the cover? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RipLip Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 Well I'm at work and all my part numbers are filed at home. If I remember over the weekend I'll bring them in on Monday. I can start by telling you it is a small Dayton motor with a fan on the top for cooling the motor. It has a shaft that goes down with a type of gear reduction in it. I use threaded rod as a shaft and the paddle is like the angle iron channel stock that they use to mount garage door openers with. It has all the holes in it so the resistance stays down and allows the plastic to be seperated as it mixes. You have to grind down the edges so it is curved like the bottom of the presto pot. The motor has a small fan on the top which cools its windings. There is a guy here on TU that I got the first one from and he makes them great. I don't make them any different except a couple small changes. If you throw out the question I'm sure he can get you a set up. As for a cover I have a couples different ideas you could go with. the motor is basically mounted to the table you have the pot on and raised with threaded rod and the motor is affixed by al. metal brackets and centered into the pot. You could cut a piece of sheet metal and affix with hinges on the back part of the bracket and the front so you can lift and close real easy. I have a vent tube right in the back about level with the pot so there isn't any vapors going into my face but you need to cover the plastic because the small fan on the motor blows the smoke all over the place even with a vent in the area. I don't really have a good way to explain it but a piece of cardboard on the top works fine too. I guess I rambled on and hopefully it helps somehow. I will try and get the motor number for you from Grainger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delw Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 Heres the part number page 3 post #21 http://www.tackleunderground.com/forum/soft-plastics/11363-making-presto-pot-stirrer-3.html and down 2 posts is how to make the paddles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mradamh Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 Does anyone else heat their plastic to 400? I thought 325 was hot! I get mine at 340 max temp...400 seems high to me. I can't imagine the salt or larger flakes suspending to well in the plastic at that temp. Let alone the flakes curling or bleeding. Interesting topic... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RipLip Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 I new there was a thread out there. Thanks for the help Delw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Sock Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 who is it that is selling those pots with the stirrer's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Prager Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 DropShots.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mradamh Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 who is it that is selling those pots with the stirrer's? MBroggi sells them. There's video threads out there showing it in action. Send him a PM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbroggi1 Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 (edited) Edited July 21, 2008 by mbroggi1 text Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...