fish eyes Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 Just wondering if it is worth to buy it,anybody that has it do you like it.also if i would buy the one that handles .41 to .51 would i be able to bend smaller wire sizes on it. thanks:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike-A-Pike Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 I have one and it gets a pretty regular work out. I think there are 4 different head and handle size configurations; A being the smallest and D being the largest. I own a C and D head and handle and normally swap between the two as the wire size changes. I have made a few batches of spinners using the larger D size with smaller .035 and .030 wire - the only real difference is the size of the line tie - if you can live with it then its not an issue. There are two sizes of Tacklemakers; the larger having the base in two pieces and the original one piece design. If I was going to buy one for first time today, I would buy the two piece design. There is an in-line buzz bait design that is just 1 or 2 mm to long to form and I have toyed with the idea of cutting my short framed Boggs. By all means, I highly recommend a Boggs Tacklemaker to make the task of making nice tight wire loops and get a professional result. Examples of what I made are in the gallery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimcline Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 Spike, I have the Hagen's bender and I want to be able to form smaller loops for light wire for in-lines and such. how do I get smaller loops? The standard heads make much larger loops than I need. I wonder does Hagen's make a smaller head? I haven't seen one if they do. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, JIM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike-A-Pike Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 Hagen's list a Professional Wire Former for wire .018 to .041 and a Musky lure adapter kit for .041 to .051 sized wire. The Professional Wire Former is supposed to come with 1/8" and 3/16" diameter loop options included. You may want to check with the Hagen's if you didn't get both or about getting a replacement. I don't own one and only saw one used once for just a few minutes; the info comes from page 98 of the 2008 Hagen's catalog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish eyes Posted July 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 thank you for answering my question spike. also nice spinners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishinME Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 I agree with Spike-A-Pike. I have one and really like it. I have the "C" and "D" kits and I use the "D" stuff more than anything. I bend 0.050" wire and I make inline as well as safety pin type jig spinners. Let us know how you do and how you like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muskietom51 Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 I have the D size love it, i am having a little trouble though. After the spinner is assembled on the finish wrap I don't have enough room for the spinner body so I get a bend in the spinner. Hope you guys know what i'm talking about, do u just bend the bait or what lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishinME Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 As I start my wrap, the shaft bends out about 10-20 degrees but fixes itself by the time the third or fourth wrap is completed. I do use a pair of needle nose pliers to fix any bends which are VERY minor if any. My lure bodies may be smaller than yours. Which lure bodies are you using? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishinME Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 After re-reading your post I think that I was talking about a different bend. Are you talking about the clevis bending when finishing the lure? If this is what you are talking about, here are my solutions: 1. Next time cut your wire a little longer. I keep notes of my shaft lengths of each of my spinners so that they are uniform and I dont make them too short. 2. I keep the leg of the wrap around 3/4" or less (Before it wraps around the shaft) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike-A-Pike Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 That 3.5 inch limit in the handle is the only limiting aspect of the tacklemaker that is a negative. I have slide extra long wire into the drilled out (hollow) part of the handle. Most of the time, that is enough. Both rubber and brass skirt collars slide inside the handle. There have been a couple of spinners that have proven to be to long if you attempt to make them out of a single wire shaft, then I use two shafts and put a split ring between. The only down side to this is an occasional hang up when the hook catches the other part of the lure. The other thing I've been thinking of was sawing my standard size base in half and buying the extended head - I just don't know if the cut out is also extended? I haven't been able to find a picture of it either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishinME Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 It looks the same to me.... Check out this link I googled "boggs tackle maker muskie" Bogg's Tackle Maker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish eyes Posted July 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 is there a 2 piece tacklemaker or do you have to cut it in half? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike-A-Pike Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 I guess you would have to cut it in two and add the extension - but I fail to see how that would change the 3.5 inch gap it the original head is added to some type of common bar stock. On the Boggs site, there appears to be two different head lengths but no pictures one way or the other. Heads $$$.$$ - Specify: Std or Extended base. 00001 A-head for .018" – .022" wire 00002 B-head for .024" – .031" wire 00003 C-head for .032" – .040" wire 00004 D-head for .041" – .051" wire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishinME Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Spike, you are right. The only explanation I have is that the extension is there so that you do not have to unbolt and rebolt your tacklemaker if you are making shorter spinners - just add the extension and it is like you have the original spacing. How does that sound? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muskietom51 Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 I think splitting the base would be the ticket, I was thinking that myself. Also I;ve thought of modifing the length, I know its screwed into the rod but i don't plan on making smaller baits so it would just be fixed. Then you'd have plenty of room for small or large baits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike-A-Pike Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 I'm thinking of going a little crazy... That 3.5 inch limit in the head is only thing keeping me from producing a couple of in-line buzz baits I'd like to play with. Just cutting the base isn't going to add any new space to making the spinner from split ring eye with skirt collar, lure body, beads, buzz blades, rivets, and the line tie eye. The head shaft needs to be lengthened so the fixed head space can be made more like 5 inches. A slightly larger diameter would provide a little extra muscle for bending .061 wire sizes. I'm going to run off and get it all changed tonight... but, I have a son who is a machinist and I'd like to get a prototype put together as he gets some spare time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 While we,re on the subject of boggs i,ve got a question.A couple months ago i bought a used tackle maker from a guy thought it was a boggs but now i,m not sure. it looks the same except it,s gray not black and the eye pin can not be changed not sure about the king pin .The name boggs is not on it anywhere however ANGLING SPECIALTIES is.Would like to order a different head and king pin but not sure if the boggs parts would work. What do you guys think. Jimbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike-A-Pike Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 I was kind'a curious and did a google search Angling Specialties Tacklemaker and it came up with this web site Retailers and there was a further link to http://www.anglingspecialties.net It appears that Angling Specialties may have been a Canadian retailer... Just guessing. The last link looks like someone's attempt to keep the domain name from being used - Again, just guessing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo Posted July 26, 2008 Report Share Posted July 26, 2008 That didn,t go anywhere did it,think i,ll contact bogg,s and see what they say Thanks Bruce Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muskietom51 Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 ok guys i have a buddy thats is a machinist an he going to attempt to make a new rod for me with a longer flat area for the lure body, I won't see him til next weekend. I'll give it a try an see how the wire wrap does with the extra room. I'll keep you posted, headed up to erie for the week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike-A-Pike Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 That sounds like the ticket Tom... If that flat cutout is extended even an inch or 1.5 inches, I think you'll have the "Super Bogg's Tacklemaker 5000" Please take a few after shots... My wife asked what's going on; did the Viagra accidentally fall into my coffee??? Women just don't get it sometimes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muskietom51 Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 Well my friend got it made sweet. He went into alot of detail also. A friend of his 80yrs old did most of the work. He machined a stainless steel 4" long with threaded end just like the d size only 4" long. The end piece exactly the same as the D. Now my first wrap is perfect i assembly the spinner bait hold it on the flat section when making the end twist, works wonderful. I figure how to post a pic i will tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike-A-Pike Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 Take your photos and when you move it from your camera to your computer, set the photo sizing for 600 x 400 pixels and save them as jpg files. When you get ready to add it to this thread, select the "Go Advanced" button. The window will open to show the box where you add and format your text; add your text. When your finished doing that, scroll down beyond the Submit Reply button, in the Additional Options section, select the Manage Attachments button and follow the directions for adding you photos. Two things that you need to remember: There are size restrictions; but the 600 x 400 pixel jpg files shouldn't pose any problems. You are limited to adding three photos or files using the Manage Attachments feature. Good luck getting them posted and just ask if you run into problems. Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muskietom51 Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 got water heater problems hereplus soaked walls an carpet i'll try as soon as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muskietom51 Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 may need some help here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
