summitlures Posted July 20, 2008 Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 hey guys, do any of you know how big the segments should be for a lipless 5" swimbait? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted July 20, 2008 Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 (edited) For a three piece lure, I'd think in terms of 2/1/1, starting with the head section, not counting whatever you're using for a tail. If you're thinking four piece, 2/1/1/1, but I don't know how you're going to get all your hardware into four little pieces like that. I look forward to hearing about, and, hopefully, seeing whatever you wind up making. Good luck. Edited July 20, 2008 by mark poulson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summitlures Posted July 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summitlures Posted July 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 Oh, thanks, but should I put a little more weight on the head than the other parts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted July 20, 2008 Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 Mark the lure off into four equal sections. The head is 2 sections, the other two are one each. The tail, if you're using a plastic tail or something else, shouldn't be counted in dividing the lure, only the woodens sections. If you're making a wooden tail section, I'd just make it the third section. Where are you hanging your hooks, and what kind of tail are you planning to use, if any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summitlures Posted July 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 (edited) oh, I think I'll use a plastic tail, but i might cut it out of balsa wood, and would it work if it was a wake bait? Edited July 20, 2008 by summitlures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpholeo Posted July 20, 2008 Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 (edited) Heres a 4 piece, 4-1/2" shad i just finished, I only had to weight the first 2 sections. 1-1/2, 1 ,1, 1 Edited July 20, 2008 by carpholeo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted July 20, 2008 Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 Balsa is a very soft wood. I don't think it would be my choice of wood for a jointed swim bait. I have a 6" four piece pine lure sitting on my work bench that I haven't finished yet, because the wood is so buoyant I will have to add a ton of ballast to get it to float right, and there's just not enough room in those small sections. It was something I made, early on, to play around with the physical challenges of hinging. It was a great help in figuring things out, sort of like assembling a wooden cabinet dry first, to see what needs to go together in what order, so, when the glue has been applied, you don't forget a step and ruin all your work. But, as I said, I probably will never finish it. Wrong wood. I've settled on poplar. Some people use basswood, some fir, some oak, some cedar. It really depends on the actual piece of wood you have to work with, and how heavy it is. Pine can range from super light, like the easy-to-carve piece I used for that prototype, to some really heavily pitched stuff, which is heavier, and which I actually use for my surface gliders, which are one piece. I'm sticking with poplar or fir for my jointed lures, since both woods are strong, heavy enough to require relatively minimum ballast weighting, and are still easy to shape and finish. What ever you finally choose to use, know you probably won't get it right the first, or second, or even third time. But each attempt will get you closer, and teach you something. Life is a journey, not a destination. Enjoy the ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summitlures Posted July 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 wait, are you swimsterbater on sdfish.com? just wondering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted July 20, 2008 Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 carphelo, That looks great! You da man!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpholeo Posted July 20, 2008 Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 wait, are you swimsterbater on sdfish.com? just wondering yup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summitlures Posted July 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 but does basswood a really light or sorta heavy wood? it's the only wood available online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summitlures Posted July 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 hey carpholeo, what do you use for your swimbaits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpholeo Posted July 20, 2008 Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 Used to use basswood or poplar, but now I use expanded pvc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summitlures Posted July 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 oh, this is sorta what I wnat it to look like. swimbait.doc swimbait.doc swimbait.doc swimbait.doc swimbait.doc swimbait.doc swimbait.doc swimbait.doc swimbait.doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summitlures Posted July 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 (edited) Used to use basswood or poplar, but now I use expanded pvc. oh, what's expanded pvc? And nice swimbaits, they are the best I've seen. Edited July 20, 2008 by summitlures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summitlures Posted July 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 Balsa is a very soft wood. I don't think it would be my choice of wood for a jointed swim bait. quote]no, that's for the tail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summitlures Posted July 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 oh, where can you find expanded pvc in SD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpholeo Posted July 20, 2008 Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 oh, where can you find expanded pvc in SD? SD plastics, they should still have some 1" black left. be sure to grab some free lexan from the scrap bin too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpholeo Posted July 20, 2008 Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 oh, this is sorta what I wnat it to look like. LOL, thats the same image i used for my giant trout swimmie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summitlures Posted July 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 man, it's pretty expensive, is there any other place that sells it smaller? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summitlures Posted July 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 (edited) man, you make swimbaits as good as jerry rago, and did you just glue the picture on to the bait? or did you use the tissue foil technique? Edited July 20, 2008 by summitlures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpholeo Posted July 20, 2008 Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 (edited) I use an old typewriter paper called " eatons corrasable bond" and spray on adhesive. You dont have to buy the whole sheet, they have a partial sheet that you can have them cut you a piece off of. Edited July 20, 2008 by carpholeo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summitlures Posted July 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 oh, but could you use normal paper, or tissue paper without foil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpholeo Posted July 20, 2008 Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 regular printer paper can expand if you dont totally saturate it with epoxy, I've never tried the tissue/foil thing, but I wanna try the printing on fabric backed with freezer paper technique. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
