nrd123 Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 Hello everyone, this is my first post, and I had a question about making a lure turner. I know most people use a motor from a rotisserie(sp?) oven but I did'ent want to spend 20$ just to get the motor out of it and have a motor that I got from a microwave for free and was wondering how many volts to run through it to get it to turn. Thanks Nrd123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 Good question. I recently took a microwave apart and the motor power was supplied from a transformer. Hopefully, you still have the microwave shell. If so, you need to extract the transformer and use that. The problem here is that there is no standard construction of microwave motors. If there is/was a transformer, then the motor is almost certainly a DC motor and you could start off with 12V or better still, extract the transformer and use that. If no transformer is present, then the motor could be using mains AC voltage. Is there any text information on the motor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrd123 Posted August 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 Thanks, I might still be able to get the transformer if you can tell me what it looks like so I know what I'm looking for, but anyway on the motor it says. ssm-16hr 6549w1s013d ac120v 2.8W 60Hz 6r.p.m class F see the ac120v made me think that I must solder some wires to it and plug it into the wall which I would not want to do.(120v through some nearly exposed wires is not good) The microwave was made by maytag if that helps. Nrd123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 That tells me that there is no transformer involved. The motor runs directly from the mains (120V 60Hz). The 2.8W is the power rating of the motor, which is quite small in comparison with say a hair dryer running 600W, but that includes the heater. Sorry, I rambling. It is always a bit scary wiring up to the mains, but you have no choice. The plug should be a low fuse value, say 3amp (I don't know about US plugs, but UK plugs carry a fuse), a protection fuse should be involved somewhere in the circuit. Because you don't know the condition of the motor, make sure you know where the circuit breaker board is and have a torch at your side, before switching on for the first time. I would wait a couple of hours before trying, to see if anyone else on TU has anything to say on the subject. I am an engineer with a little electronics background, NOT an electrician. Please post the results of your endeavours and good luck with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrd123 Posted August 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 Thanks for the help and I will wait for someone else's input. nrd123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike-A-Pike Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 I agree with Vman's general assessment; the motor can be wire directly to a plug. The only thing that you may want to add to the basic design would be an on/off switch; that way, with switch turned off, you can plug it in with relative safety and minimum risk when turning it on. If there are wires still on the motor, you need only strip the insulation back enough to connect the motor to your plug OR switch & plug and use wire nuts and electric tape. The more thought and effort you put into your design and build, the safer and more durable the finished product will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazmail Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 (edited) I have wired a few of these, and know little about 240AC (or 110AC there - white man magic) - just follow your normal wiring colours for active/ neutral and earth, and attach a wall plug. They are a quite durable and tourkey motor despite their low wattage (2.8W). I have used a 2.4 and 5 RPM motor, the 5 does a good job, and 6 RPM would be o.K, but would make it hard to chase when placing the lures on the wheel - the larger the wheel diameter, the easier to attach lures while spinning, although it would have a greater "tip speed". pete Edited August 5, 2008 by hazmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clamboni Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 I third that assessment. Though instead of wire nuts and epectrical tape, I'd use butt connectors........seems a little safer to me and definitely looks cleaner. Just make damn sure your crimp will hiold, then tape each wire individually. And just in case, the first time you plug it in, do it out in the yard with an extension cord, that way if it's no good you won't burn down your house. It's pretty straightforward and easy though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrd123 Posted August 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 Thanks for all the help everyone. If I decide to use this motor I will post back the results. Thanks again Nrd123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbodin Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 With all your questions being asked and your concern for safety, I would let someone with an electrical background do the work. You could burn your house down. Or you could be breaking laws depending on where you live. My Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmadd Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 Solder the wires together and cover in heat-shrink tubing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1gf1sh1 Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 i'd say just spend the 20 bucks if all you want is a lure turner. if your looking for a learning experience, then by all means, proceed.... you'll be in it at least 20 bucks labor not to mention anything you need. even if you have it, it costed something at some time or other. good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark berrisford Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 only just seen this thread here's an early version of my lure turner powered by a microwave motor it now holds 12 baits and has a moveable disc so i can set it for different size bait's,the motor has been going strong for over 2 years with no problem's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnie3035 Posted December 25, 2008 Report Share Posted December 25, 2008 I need to build one of the contraptions. I've seen quite a few you folks have built. In your opinion: Which one is better; the lures attached by the ends as the one pictured in the previous post or the ones attached by the nose/tail?? Probably a personal preference thing, but I was curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neptune Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 Click on this link to get a 5 RPM 115volt AC motor. It does not need a Transformer and comes with the electrical cord. Burden Sales Surplus Center Item Detail Neptune * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrd123 Posted January 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 thanks everyone especially for the link. I have not got around to make my turner yet, but plan to soon. nrd123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TightLinez Posted January 25, 2009 Report Share Posted January 25, 2009 (edited) Click on this link to get a 5 RPM 115volt AC motor. It does not need a Transformer and comes with the electrical cord.Burden Sales Surplus Center Item Detail Neptune * Thanks for the link Neptune. Is there any way you can tell/show us how that might work? I'm no electronics whiz, so it all looks like a pile of metal and wires to me. Also, going back to the microwave motor- does anyone know how I could make this thing work?.... Amazon.com: NEW 120V Microwave Synchronous Synch Turntable Motor 5-6 rpm 2.5/2W: Kitchen & Dining Thank you! Edited January 25, 2009 by TightLinez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neptune Posted January 25, 2009 Report Share Posted January 25, 2009 TightLinez, If you wait a day or so, I will post information regarding the details of both motors in your latest post.(Sunday 11:46 A.M. Jan.25) The Motor assembly at Burden Sales Surplus Center Item Detail is the best buy, because it is less expensive, plus you get the line cord an other parts that you will need. Neptune * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TightLinez Posted January 25, 2009 Report Share Posted January 25, 2009 TightLinez,If you wait a day or so, I will post information regarding the details of both motors in your latest post.(Sunday 11:46 A.M. Jan.25) The Motor assembly at Burden Sales Surplus Center Item Detail is the best buy, because it is less expensive, plus you get the line cord an other parts that you will need. Neptune * Sounds great Neptune. I appreciate the help. Right now I have a 1rpm rotisserie motor, but it's too slow for my liking. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neptune Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 (edited) All American Roller Guides - Sprial, Stainless Steel Roller GuidesTightLine Here you go: The reason for over lapping the wires is to offset the splices so that they are at different locations and therefore can not touch each other. You can solder the splices or twist them tightly together. Then wrap each splice with electrical tape, then tape the two splices together. This same information can be used with the $9.00 motor which you made referenced to. But with that motor you would have to buy the Power Cord and switch. You would be way ahead using the above motor which only cost $4.00 for everything in the photo. Check out my Neptune Spiral/Acid Roller Guides at this link: All American Roller Guides - Sprial, Stainless Steel Roller Guides Then click on these buttons: Specifications | Advantages | Colors | Pricing | Catches Neptune * Edited January 26, 2009 by Neptune Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TightLinez Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 Thank you! I'll post some pics of my finished product. That was a great illustration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo D Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 Neptune, thanks for the details and link, and welcome to TU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMALLIEHUNTER Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 You can buy the motor ready to go @Hagens for $12.95 Constructed of high density polypropylene, this unit is designed to clamp onto the wire form end of plugs. The clamp fits into the pre-drilled holes on the unit for painting or detail work, and then fits into the drying motor, where it is gently turned to assure a non-drip finish. Each table measures 24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neptune Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 SMALLIEHUNTER Sorry, but your link (www.hagens) doesn't work! By fiddling around a lot(clicking on the link many times), you can get the following Denmark website: http://www.hagens-fjedre.com/ And I'm sure that is not the one you intended. Regards, Neptune * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedbuggy Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 (edited) Burden Sales Surplus Center Item Detail $1.89 At this price I wonder if this would work. With a pully you might make it tuen a bit faster. It loos set up for continious duty plus 110v. They also have one that you could step down from 30 rmp http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?UID=2009020919563273&item=10-1671&catname=electric $3.49 Which would be better? What do you guys think? I also think its www.hagensfish.com Edited February 10, 2009 by speedbuggy update Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
