Making multiple color pours

[tylerd1994]

i have two questions on multiple color pours. How do you do it?!!! with a fulll round mold. The next question is how can i make a like white belly on a frog and a green body or any other colors i tried pouring the belly first then putting it together and it didnt turn out. the belly peeled off

also how do you get the multiple colored worms

Edited August 6, 2008 by Spike-A-Pike

[pastorshane]

Tylerd1994, on laminates or multi color pours in a 2 piece mold you'll need to pour the bottom color in the mold first with it open and wait a few seconds for the plastic to settle a hair then put the mold together and pour the second color pretty hot. On one piece molds I pour them really close together as far as timing so there is no dividing line. If your using aluminum the molds need to be warm or you will have a cold crack where the colors meet. It takes practice but you can do it. As far as the frog, don't wait so long before pouring the second color, and pour the second color again pretty hot so they will bond. You can use a divided pyrex cup for 2 color pours as well. Do a search on here and you'll see what I mean. Shane.

Edited August 6, 2008 by pastorshane

[tylerd1994]

so how do you get the worms that have like colored streaks. do you pour two colors at the same time

Edited August 17, 2008 by redg8r
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[pastorshane]

Those baits in the picture have a powdered hi lite added to clear or base color and it reflects to streaky or differant hue of color. I use them lots.

[tylerd1994]

i mean like there are two colors goin down the sides

[pastorshane]

Are you talking about the flake in the bait, or the black and bottom color, or the reflection of the hi lite in the bottom color?

[tylerd1994]

like these

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[pastorshane]

Those are done like I was saying in earlier posts. You open the 2 piece mold up lay it flat, pour the first color in one half of the mold, wait a few seconds for the plastic to settle a little then close the mold and pour the scond color down the mold like usual only a little hotter than normal and there you go. There are lots of tricks and things you learn as you go. If you heat up the molds a little you shouldn't have a visible line or "cold crack" down the side.

Edited August 6, 2008 by pastorshane

[tylerd1994]

i also tried one time pouring two colors at once which was a chartreuse and black but it didnt work it just like mixed and made a green color

[pastorshane]

Do a search on here and see the divided cups some of us use and ask your ad to help you build one. That will help pour two at once. You can do swirls and laminates with them with a little practice. You can get a differant cool effect but it "wastes" lots of plastic because you can only re use it for black after wards but you can heat up like a dark color of plastic ready to pour then drop some lighter colors of colorant in it and bairly stir it where the color is floating not mixed in and pour your baits it gives it a nice almost swirled look.

Edited August 6, 2008 by pastorshane

[tylerd1994]

thanks alot pastor shane

[pastorshane]

I'm glad I could help.

[hawghunterbaits]

those look good. I remeber my first lams I did boy o boy! I don't offer them on my web site cause they take too long to pour but on special request I do. just remember what shane said pour first color with mold open then close and wait about 30 seconds then pour second color (very hot) into mold. as far as swirlred baits go or two color pours Those take some practice but can be fun to pour, a divided cup works wonders! Good Luck!

[nova]

Couple of questions. How long have you been pouring? If you are just starting you should focus more on getting simple pours down pat before you go on to more comlpicated stuff.

I'm not trying to hold you back; but in order to do those kinds of pours, and others, you have to master the basics. It's impossible to start at the top of the ladder, not that I'm a pro,but we've all started at the bottom and that's the only way to learn properly.

Don't take this post the wrong way.

www.novalures.com

[tylerd1994]

ive been doin it for a year or so im just experimenting with different things

[nova]

I understand where you are. When I started (20 years ago)I was using a Coleman stove and a cast iron pan and that's because sites like this did not exsist. I had no one to talk to. I made every mistake in the book and even discovered a few,lol.

All I'm saying is don't try to rush it.

www.novalures.com

[Ed Brabant]

Last night I was pouring multil colored swim baits and had some green and black left over. i decided to try and pour laminated stick baits. I took the 2 cups of plastic that I had. They are 1 cup pryex from wally world. i poured the 2 cups at the same time into the top of one of Del's 5 1/4 stick bait molds and i was plesantly surprised at the results. I had a 2 colored stick. now it was green and black but I did not see and color bleeding. I did try and pour the same amount and speed from each cup. After doing that and reading this post it made me think what if I was to turn the mold with a motor as I poured would I end up wiyh a swirl. I am almost out of plastic. I plan on oredering 5 gallons Wednesday. i am going to give it a try then.

[pastorshane]

Ed, I tried that a while back. The problem I had was it is very hard to keep the plastic pouring down the center of the mold while it is spinning. The only way I can think to do it is some how be directly over the mold and the cavities be centered or else the outside edges of the mold will be spinning in a wider area making it impossible to pour. If you figure it out I'd like to know.

[Ed Brabant]

The only issue i see is what you said your problerm was. I was thinking was to drill 4 shallow holes in the bottom of the mold where the vent is on the stick bait. locating the holes on the center line of the bait. On the plate that would spin the mold drill a hole in the center line of the motor and put a dowel pin in the hole. Keeping the tollerances of the hole with in a few thousands of an inch. That way when the plate spins the pin spins concentric. Then its just move to the next hole and it should spin concentric. See I was a Tool maker for over 20 years. In all that time I really never needed to make anything for my self. Now i have moved into a position as a Designer. I have lost acess to a shop. But I need to make all kinds of little trinkets and tools for pouring. September is right around the coroner. Perhap i will take a night course so I can make all my stuff. I have been asking my buddy to do what I need now. But I hate to keep asking him. He won't take any money or anything.

[pastorshane]

Ed, I thought about a simular idea as you but don't have the time to work on it. Maybe in December when I slow down some. You idea will work if you can keep the plastic warm enough with all the stopping and adjusting the molds. Good idea!

[Ed Brabant]

The only adjustment I can think of is to move the mold to the new position and that is only the pitch of the cavites. The pin would only enter the mold about 3/16 of an inch.

[pigdestroyer]

On the topic of multi-color pours:

Noob here. I have poured about 100 5.5" dropshot worms (one color). I am pretty confident at that level. I want to move on to multi-color pours.

Can you do multi-colors with a microwave, or is that not ideal? The only way I can see it working is if you heat both plastics at the same time. When pouring the plastic, do you pour all of the cavities with one color, then go back with the other color? Or, do you pour the colors right on top of each other, one cavity at a time? I have a glass-top stove where I am pouring. I was thinking of using one of the burners to keep the mold hot while doing the multi-colors. Has anyone tried this?

I am purchasing a couple of 2-part molds from Del shortly. But I want to get the basics down first. I will be building a divided cup for pouring the 2-parts.

Any advice will be greatly appreciated. I have viewed a lot of your galleries and they spawn a lot of questions and excitement.

Edited August 12, 2008 by pigdestroyer

[Ed Brabant]

I had good results from using the 2 cups one in each hand and pouring the same amount or as best as I could. I need to search for this divided cup thing I am hearing about. I am almost out of plastic or I would try some more and post the pictures. I went on Craig's list for the microwaves. I use 2 and a presto pot and a 2 burner electric hot plate. For the microwaves I have a total of $5.00 invested. And the 2 burner hot plate was $20. I heat 2 colors up at the same time. Then if I am doing more than 2 colors one is always waiting to get heated. The plastic does holds the heat for a while. I just did a search and I know what my next project is divided cups here I come. I think a thread started kind of I'll show you mine if you show me your's would be kind of cool. It would be nice to see how differnt people have their set up's. Seeing something is much better than reading about it. Like the presto pots or mixing paddels ect.

Edited August 12, 2008 by Ed Brabant

[pigdestroyer]

So, 2 microwaves and hotplates are needed? I really need a garage. I am doing this out of my apartment. Do you put the glass measuring cup directly on the hotplate to keep the plastic hot after microwaving? Is that its purpose?

Does anyone have a template online for the divider to create a divided cup (8oz Anchor)? I know how to make one, but I don't have a saw to cut the POP in half.

Yeah. A thread like that would really help out new people and evolve the whole process, but it seems like a lot of people on here have trade secrets that want to keep. I agree. Seeing is better than reading. I am a very fast and visual learner.

Any other help (from anyone)?

[outdooradvantage]

For the multi color pours I use 2 cups and 1 microwave.