LBH Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Figured I'd post this for anyone looking for jon ideas Bass Fishing Forums - 1964, 12' Jon Boat restoration Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captsully18 Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Very nice! Surely doesn't look anything like the pruchase day. Great idea for the hull. Bet it doesn't get scratched. Puts ideas in my head. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBH Posted September 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Very nice! Surely doesn't look anything like the pruchase day. Great idea for the hull. Bet it doesn't get scratched. Puts ideas in my head.David Actually no, the one thing that was a flop was the rhino lining on the bottom. Created a ton of drag (its an elec only boat), added weight, and eventually did not hold up where it was needed most, along the bottom "V" channels. Junk, scrap that idea. Some folks use it as a sealer on the inside, another bad move, eliminate your leaks, don't compensate for them. Just my .02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSC Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 (edited) Hi Guys Had to tune in .... I have a 14' Alum Jon boat older one when I got it ... Rhino Linerad the inside and has been great .. my son has it and he and the grand kids use it enough to check out the wear. Did not notice that much increase in weight ... with a 8 horse runs the same as before we added it ... The guys that did mine really cleaned it (inside) real good before applying the coating. Same people have done quite a few Alum boats for the State. We did not paint the outside of it as I am a little lazy trying to prepare Alum for painting .. I appreciate seeing one with a "Good" paint job ... The one I use came from the factory painted ... flat brown. You did a good job. JSC Edited September 15, 2008 by JSC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBH Posted September 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 (edited) Hi Guys Had to tune in .... I have a 14' Alum Jon boat older one when I got it ... Rhino Linerad the inside and has been great .. my son has it and he and the grand kids use it enough to check out the wear. Did not notice that much increase in weight ... with a 8 horse runs the same as before we added it ... The guys that did mine really cleaned it (inside) real good before applying the coating. Same people have done quite a few Alum boats for the State. We did not paint the outside of it as I am a little lazy trying to prepare Alum for painting .. I appreciate seeing one with a "Good" paint job ... The one I use came from the factory painted ... flat brown. You did a good job. JSC You won't notice a weight increase with a gas motor but mine is elec only and it made a HUGE difference. Keep in mind, mine is on the "outside". We have to drag the boat over some rip rap to launch, this was why I went with this. It did not hold up. We ended up building a roller system to launch, much better. A big factor about having carpeted decks inside as opposed to liner is .................... A.NOISE!!!! - Although as lined bottom is quieter than a non-lined bottom, neither compare to a carpeted deck. B.With the decks, water from anchor, swimming, etc, all runs UNDER the decks as they sit on the ribs of the boat. This keeps everything on the floor nice and dry. C. Carpet is just plain nicer to walk on, especially for the kids. Even if you applied liner to prevent leaks, I would still make some carpeted decks. It costs about $30 to do a 12' boat. BEYOND worth it. I used 3/8 cdx to keep it lighter and to allow it to countour a bit to the hull. Urethaned and carpeted, they are the nicest part of this rebuild and will be in every boat I do from here on out. Hint- If you are sold on lining the bottom inside, be aware that the liners now come in colors. A tan or soft color is your best bet. DO NOT USE BLACK!! The inside of the vessel gets extremely hot, both to the touch and in general. Another liner tip- Prep work is key. The liner everywhere other than on the V channels,...is bulletproof,....Greeeeat,lol....it ain't coming off anytime soon, ugh. Also, did y'all know............. If you have an old, beat up looking trailer, even galvanized,...the liner will cover it. It makes for a nice non-skid surface for walking on the trailer also. Gas emitting metals can be covered with this stuff, pretty cool. ("Herculiner" in particular, not sure of other brands. This is the brand they use at my brothers shop) Edited September 16, 2008 by LBH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captsully18 Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 You won't notice a weight increase with a gas motor but mine is elec only and it made a HUGE difference. Keep in mind, mine is on the "outside". We have to drag the boat over some rip rap to launch, this was why I went with this. It did not hold up. We ended up building a roller system to launch, much better.A big factor about having carpeted decks inside as opposed to liner is .................... A.NOISE!!!! - Although as lined bottom is quieter than a non-lined bottom, neither compare to a carpeted deck. B.With the decks, water from anchor, swimming, etc, all runs UNDER the decks as they sit on the ribs of the boat. This keeps everything on the floor nice and dry. C. Carpet is just plain nicer to walk on, especially for the kids. Even if you applied liner to prevent leaks, I would still make some carpeted decks. It costs about $30 to do a 12' boat. BEYOND worth it. I used 3/8 cdx to keep it lighter and to allow it to countour a bit to the hull. Urethaned and carpeted, they are the nicest part of this rebuild and will be in every boat I do from here on out. Hint- If you are sold on lining the bottom inside, be aware that the liners now come in colors. A tan or soft color is your best bet. DO NOT USE BLACK!! The inside of the vessel gets extremely hot, both to the touch and in general. Another liner tip- Prep work is key. The liner everywhere other than on the V channels,...is bulletproof,....Greeeeat,lol....it ain't coming off anytime soon, ugh. Also, did y'all know............. If you have an old, beat up looking trailer, even galvanized,...the liner will cover it. It makes for a nice non-skid surface for walking on the trailer also. Gas emitting metals can be covered with this stuff, pretty cool. ("Herculiner" in particular, not sure of other brands. This is the brand they use at my brothers shop) Good info and tips. Love to avoid problems versus learning the hard way. Sorry that you had to, though. Thanks, and again, I think your boat looks super. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBH Posted September 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 JSC, regarding being too lazy, we just did my buddys 1236 which has the factory mossy green paint. We used a chemical stripper and the boat was shiny metal in 2 hrs. Messy to work with, but what a time saver!! My boat had glue, thicker paint, decals etc . That's why I sanded the whole thing instead of using a liquid stripper but for yours it would work fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBH Posted September 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 JSC, regarding being too lazy, we just did my buddys 1236 which has the factory mossy green paint. We used a chemical stripper and the boat was shiny metal in 2 hrs. Messy to work with, but what a time saver!! My boat had glue, thicker paint, decals etc . That's why I sanded the whole thing instead of using a liquid stripper but for yours it would work fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSC Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 Hi Thanx .. but if that boat gets painted either my son or the grand sons will have to do it and I think really that it will be left in the "Raw" ... Have A Good One JSC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBH Posted September 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 HiThanx .. but if that boat gets painted either my son or the grand sons will have to do it and I think really that it will be left in the "Raw" ... Have A Good One JSC Not if Dad/Grandpa says "Ain't NOONE using it till it's BLUE" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazmail Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 LBH, -finally managed to log in, great restore, and love the colour/signing. pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSC Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 "Not if Dad/Grandpa says "Ain't NO ONE using it till it's BLUE" ;)" Easier said than done Have a good day JSC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordy52 Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 that is exactly what kind of boat i am restoring. i have not put the finishing touches but close. you have done a great job. here is what i started out with. Figured I'd post this for anyone looking for jon ideas Bass Fishing Forums - 1964, 12' Jon Boat restoration Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
