pigdestroyer Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 It looks like there are a few different makers of colors. What does everyone use? I see a lot mention MF, LC and Del. Are some better than others? I am new and have all Del colors right now. I don't seem to get the color results that I am looking for from the cookbooks. I am assuming the people writing the recipes are using a different brand of color than I have. PS. Is there anyone that makes a really good Watermelon? All I can find is light-watermelon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Prager Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 I use some of all three that you mentioned. It's a matter of preference. LC's colors are definitely more concentrated than M-F or Del's. I've never had any luck using the color recipes myself. I don't pour with salt so that might be why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallie Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 The recipies are a starting point. Then you adjust the recipie to suit your tastes or to match what you are copying. Once you get going, you will get good at instinctively adding a drop of this or that to get to where you want to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delw Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 I haven't had good luck with the color cook book either, but it does get me very close. whats very important in colors is that you mix the crap out of them( no matter who's you use), put 2 1/4-20 nuts in them or 2 small round dropshot weights and shake the heck out of them. just before you put it into your plastic. everyone (dealers) pretty much get there colors at the same place(wholesaler), how ever keep in mind for example that there are over 20 shades of red 20 shades of green etc. we also tend to mix out own colors from time to time and call it amber for example. however the pigments put into amber may differ from what the other dealer uses to mix amber. thats why one persons amber or green pumpkin or water mellon etc differs from a different brand. Blues, certain browns and floresant colors tend to settle faster then most colors as the pigments are heavier. white is a very heavy pigment it will settle with in a few mins after shaking it. the other thing to keep in mind is if you add salt your color will be no were near close to what the color book says. even if the color book says added 1/8 cup salt. if you don't add the exact same amount from the exact same type of salt you will get a completely different color. for example adding 1/8 cup a table salt will be completely different than adding 1/8 cup of table salt that is ground in a blender. on flo colors and some heavy settleing colors you can nuke it for a few seconds( just to warm it up) and the pigments will disburse better when shaking it up. Methiolate is one that hard settles like a brike on the bottom and mixs better when warm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhorlings Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 Great tips on the nuking them and the nuts. Can I leave the nuts in them all the time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delw Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 Great tips on the nuking them and the nuts. Can I leave the nuts in them all the time? I do, in my microwave and run it for 10-15 seconds, if you leave it in there much longer the nuts will get hot and burn through the plastic container. its also best if your shake it before putting it in, this way the color will take the shineyness out of the nuts and keep it from arcing. Is the reflectability of something in the microwave that will make it arc not just because its metal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigdestroyer Posted September 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 Great tips Del. I hope you know that I wasn't trying to badmouth your colors in any way. I did not know that colors need to be shaken that much before using. I love the green that you got for your pointy tail stick samples. You mind sharing that recipe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delw Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 Great tips Del. I hope you know that I wasn't trying to badmouth your colors in any way. I did not know that colors need to be shaken that much before using. I love the green that you got for your pointy tail stick samples. You mind sharing that recipe? I didnt think you were bad mouthing didnt even cross my mind.I have noticed that lots of guys don't mix there colors very well. you have to mix them 10 times more than plastic. Kinda a good reminder for people who dont pour that much or are new.as far as the green.its just light watermelon with a drop or 2 of black melon to darken it up(1/4 cup of plastic) red and green glitter.the pic shows it a tad darker due to the reflection of the molds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigdestroyer Posted September 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 Good. Just making sure I didn't come off that way. I will be trying to match that green today. I don't have black melon, so I will try with black. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bojon Posted September 24, 2008 Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 One thing that I have found is that the colors(ALL) should be shaken very well if you want to have a uniform color,batch to batch.I use the small containers of color,and use a hobby paint shaker with consistant results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Sock Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 want a very nice watermelon? play around with del's light watermelon and the dark NB watermelon from MF, I am not gonna put a recipie or anything as others stated it depends on temps ability to shake a container, salt and plastic but using the light watermelon with the mf NB watermelon with a 2-1 ration of light to dark works great. I have over 80 different colors now and have used all of the 3 manufacturers of colors, always trying to get the right mix through the years. This is what I found out. If you want the best colors for your baits out there..you will need to utilize all 3 while Mf colors take a bit more they do have a purpose in the colors I make, del has some great colors and I really like his a lot.I do not use as much lurecraft due to the fact it is very heavy, using a lot of the LC color seems to give off a wax type feel but none the less, I could not make my colors without them, so I have to utilize all 3 of them and after years of experimenting it is working well, some might require MF black with 20 drops and some with LC black with only 3 drops, my recipie book is bigger than betty crocker's at this point and I love it, same applies to glitter...exept for purple(glitter) in which case nobody seems to get that right come on guys get me a purple that's purple purple!!!! That dark eye popping purple, everything out there seems to be that lavender purple or bright shiney purple..where is the dark purple man!!! I have very little left over from a few years ago for private stock baits, might need to post a picture so you can see what I am talking about..hmmm private stock uhmm I mean Tournament select series..h,mmm brain is thinking again starting to dwindle into marketing mode again.....heeeeeeeellllllppppppppppp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
