Adding salt ???

[Bad Bouy]

I am confused ( ya tell us something we dont know ) ... when adding salt to the plastic how do you measure the salt amount ? What i mean is, is 2 oz of salt ( a solid ) the same as, say, 2 oz of plastic ( a liquid) ?

My ratio is 4 parts plastic, 2 parts salt and 1 part softner... when I start to add the salt it seems like a excessive amount....

So i guess my real question is... Is a "liquid oz" the same as a "solid oz" ?

Thanks in advance for the great advice..

Oh one trick i tried yesterday... when i pour i usually end up with little "drop dots" on my table top... well those little dots make pretty cool "eyes" or just "spots" in general. I place them in the mold (only 1 piece molds so far) with toothpicks and pour "hot" over them.

[TTDuckman]

I use liquid measures for softener and use dry measures for the salt. Nearly everybody using the "senko" recipe of 4-3-1 feels that there is too much much salt when you first add it and that it is like oatmeal. Once you heat this to a proper temperature, it should be nice and ready to pour. It will always pour slightly heavier than straight plastic, but should be very close in consistency.

Tim

[Vodkaman]

An ounce is an ounce, be it liquid or solid.

I know what is affecting your mind. Often liquids are quoted as fluid ounces. You should forget about this as far as mixing ingredients for lure making.

Weigh the plastic and weigh the salt, by the same method.

For me, it only gets tedious when people start talking about cups. I have three different size cups in my kitchen.

Dave

[TTDuckman]

Dave,

I understand where you are coming from. However, ninety some odd percent of pourer's use liquid measure to measure plastic. Every recipe is based on liquid measure, not by actual ounces of a product (unless it is a dry product). A measuring cup shows 1 cup as 8 oz. When a person shares a recipe of 4 oz plastic, 12 drops green pumpkin and flake to your tast, they are referring to pouring to the 4 oz line on a graduated measuring cup, not by weighing out 4 oz of the liquid.

Dry weight should either be weighed or use a dry goods measuring devise.

Tim

[Vodkaman]

Tim, I see now and stand corrected.

Mr Bad, sorry if I mislead you.

A fluid ounce is a measure of volume, not a weight. Calling it an ounce is very misleading, but that is what it is called, nothing we can do about that.

Also, the USA fluid ounce is different to the rest of the worlds fluid ounce. On the face of it, this fact is also alarming, but when you think about it, this fact is irrelevant, as it is all about ratios. Ratios by volume.

I think Bad Buoys statement,

My ratio is 4 parts plastic, 2 parts salt and 1 part softner

is good, I would just add "by volume", then everything is crystal clear.

This thread was a good idea Bad Buoy, as I was definately on the wrong page. And wonder how many others were too.

The only problem I see now, is that a fluid ounce of coarse salt is not the same as a fluid ounce of fine ground salt. But I expect the difference would not make much difference, or would it?

Dave

[Bad Bouy]

Thanks guys! Somewhere in the discussion I found the answer I was looking for. What threw me was the amount of salt and what it was doing to the mixture...however, now I know thats how its supposed to be...

Thanks again for your input.

[Bad Bouy]

Follow up and conclusion...

So I went out and bought a scale to figure this thing out...

Results:

2 "solid" oz of salt is just that, 2 oz of salt.

2 "fluid" oz of salt is about 2 and 3/8 oz of salt.

Conclusion:

It really doesnt matter which method you use ( I feel ), the results are too close to really matter.... unless you are mixing a large quantity of plastic, but even then, a little extra salt never hurt anyone.

Hope this helps.....