MTfishingrods Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 Has anyone here ever tried molding a flourocarbon leader into a bait? I have a bait I am going to try to make a mold of but I dont like the way it is rigged just from the nose. I would like there to be another hook farther back on it and I fish mainly for Pike so it would need a strong leader material between the 2 hooks but soft enough not to hurt the action of the plastic bait. I was thinking flourocarbon, but thinking the hot plastic would melt it or at least alter its structure enough to probably lose its strength. Any other Ideas besides wire? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogbaits Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 (edited) I use a 45# COATED leader wire on my large musky frog baits,I thread it into the frog with a leather craft needle ,very easy to do,on each end where the wire comes out I ad a piece if nylon tube glued into frog to keep the wire from tearing through the bait,crimp the ends with a wire sleeve and your good to go,very fast neat and strong.The wire crimp can be pushed into the nylon sleeve at the front end for even a nicer look . Edited October 15, 2008 by prochallenger spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSC Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 Pro gave U a good way. I have never tried molding "wire" into a soft bait .. but have done quite a bit with Braided Nylon ... and if I were to do it now I would use one of the "Super Braids" ... Braid gives U plenty of flexibility and does not "Cut Out" as will mono .... but for fish with teeth..... now that may be a different story. JSC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downstream Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 I tried some samples a few years ago with flourocarbon line on my pre-rigged hand poured worms, but I had multiple line failures during pouring and a few in use after. I think the heat was too much for this line vs. std. line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delw Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 monos and florocarbons don't work real well. unless you keep your plastic below 275 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COBRA Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 i have been through and through on this, braided dacron, thats it. i have used braided line also but the dacron is a bit thicker and wont cut the plastic as easily. i have 14" eels i make and they all have lead heads with a rear hook about 8" back. i took coat hanger and polished it smooth with scotchbrite. filed a point on it and back cut a barb into it. i measure how long the hook has to be back and tie the rear hook with a palomar not. then do a double on the dacron and over hand on the front to make a small loop, and i lock it with a single over hand. then i start from the nose of the bait and thread back protruding where the rear hook will exit. hook the front loop into the barb and pull the dacron through the bait, you have to kink the bait to get some excess out from the front, and take the lead head or front hook, and put the hook point through the loop. then thread the lead head into the bait and dap some super glue. done. slide the rear hook in and pull the bait to set the plastic. works really well. never had a fish come unbuttoned. i was rigging some of my 9" shad baits the other night with a single hook/swivel up front, with the dacron back to the a rear treblein the split tail, awesome, should kill some pike this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogbaits Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 Just a personal preference but I would never use anything but wire on a pike or musky bait,I use a braided leader wire and they are plenty flexible,epecially when your fishing for big fish over 15-20 pounds,Ive not seen any Big fish baits with anything but wire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COBRA Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 stripers over the 40 pound range with the dacron havent had a problem, i do see your point though because of pikes teeth and any braided material comes apart once nicked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...