WiTackleGuy Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 ...So I'm looking at using powder paints... Due to circumstances surrounding the location of my new tackle-tinkering area, vinyl paints for scale production have become a safety issue, I think. Due to the proximity of a couple of pilot lights and an electronic ignition, and the lack of a fan with a sealed motor.... So I'm leaning towards using powder for everything. But I like the shade/pigmentation of the vinyls on a couple of the fluorescent colors better than the powder. So my plan is to use the white powder paint as a primer and then oven cure, and then dip the color and gloss top-coat using the single dip/bottle method rather than hauling out my big dipping rig.... Anyone ever had experience with vinyl over powder? Are the results acceptable? And the big question. What is the pigmentation of the white powder paint like compared to that of the white vinyl? -Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.C.T. LURES Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 I started using powder about 18 months ago over vinyl myself. The first problem i had was get the powder to cure right. I started to cure mine at 400 degrees and that "cured" my problem. I dont use white as a undercoat, but do use it on swim jigs and spinnerbaits. It looks as good as the vinyl, but the powder paint is ten times stronger, tougher than the vinyl. The nice thing about the powder is you can mix colors of powder together to get a custom fish catching colors. I like to mix black and blue to get a nice mixed head color. You can also use one color than dip the top of a jig in to give it a highlight color on the top of a jig. After using powder i would not go back to using vinyl again. I also dont currently have a fluid bed and dip right in to the powder jar. You will want to shake you powder about every 6 heads to prevent the powder packing. Hope that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 (edited) WiTackleGuy First of all I am a diehard powder paint guy so naturally I am going to be biased. I’m also going to agree with A.C.T., I would never go back to vinyl or nail polish which is what I used when I first started. Either one of these, you can’t get the color you want exactly, and the vinyl paint is very volatile along with giving me a bad headache. With that said, I’ve been using powder paint for several years, and there are very few colors that I can’t match or nothing I can’t paint with powder paint. If you are going to use fluorescent colors you must use a white base. The white base brings out the depth of the fluorescent powder and brightens it. If you don’t believe me try it. As far as dark colors, I use no base color, because it is not needed. Lastly you mention pigmentation of white. I’m confused by this question. I have 30 shades/pigment colors of white powder at home. Pigmentation is a color to achieve and white is a pure color. So you can get shades of white by adding other colors. If you are talking about consistency, hardness and adhesion, every company that makes white powder paint is slightly different. Consistency is usually on the thicker side than other colors, due to white has to get better coverage. Hardness after baking is usually about 2H, that is based on a 2H drafting pencil lead,(I won’t go into this here), and adhesion is based on curing/baking is probably better than vinyl paint. This is just my opinion. If someone can share more on this, please do as I am always willing to learn. If you want to see what can be done with powder paint, PM me your e-mail and I will send you some pics. Edited December 7, 2008 by cadman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankee jigger Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 If you want to use other colors other than powder paint,try Createx Paints.Non Toxic,no smell and a good assortment of colors.I use them through an airbrish but dont see why you couldnt dip em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamark Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 I agree with Cad, I have an assortment of colors in Powder that you could never get with Vinyl/ I have some that I forgot to write donw the mix, and have no idea how I got it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiTackleGuy Posted December 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 If you are going to use fluorescent colors you must use a white base. The white base brings out the depth of the fluorescent powder and brightens it. If you don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 WITackleGuy As soon as you put your base coat on, yes swish it through the fluorescent color while the jig is still hot. If you are going to put two colors on, yes you could put your base coat on with a fluid bed, and then you can swish your jig in another color, or you can apply it with the paint brush method. Pro-Tech white is as white as can be. It is not a creme or off-white. To get a brighter white, you would have to add a small amount of blue color. However this has to be custom blended, as if you just put blue powder in white powder paint it will not work. One last item, I use to put white vinyl paint on my powder painted jigs for eyes. The chemicals in the vinyl paint changed my white eyes a different color, as it bled through. That was my experience with powder paint and vinyl paint. I just don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
