kmb Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Hey guys- long time lurker, I enjoy looking at the designs and different style of baits. I also tye my own jigs. Now, I have a technical question, Does any one pour the color Fire and Ice? I found a lake that this is the strong color. I really do not care what the style is. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint308 Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Most of here can pour pretty much whatever color you want. You would be hard pressed to find something that someone here could not pour. Saint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveh Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 not sure i have seen that color. got a photo. what part of ohio you in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsinyard Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 I don't know if this is what you are looking for but I got it out of the soft plastic cookbook thread. An Okies version of Fire and Ice 4 oz of Plastisol 12 drops LC red 2 drops LC Purple (Not Plum Purple) 1/8 tsp medium red flake 1/8 tsp medium blue flake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 My fire and ice is like the original which is a 2 color pour. Don't have it here with me at work but when I get to the shop I'll post it up. One side has basically 2 drops of red with several dashes of small red flake. The other side is similar however uses small red and small blue flake in equal amounts. The flake has to really be loaded in so be careful on the re-heat as you may smoke any flake that has settled out. I matched mine to a worm a customer sent me so not sure who the manufacturer of the original bait was. PS I like adding some small silver holo flake in the top color as well. Really gives the bait an extra kick! Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmb Posted December 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 Everyone- thanks for the info! Dave- I am from Columbus and you and I chatted on OGF.com a couple of times. I work in the construction field and I'm in Texas until March or April Jim- Sending you a PM Thanks all!. Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDBaits Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 I don't know if this is what you are looking for but I got it out of the soft plastic cookbook thread.An Okies version of Fire and Ice 4 oz of Plastisol 12 drops LC red 2 drops LC Purple (Not Plum Purple) 1/8 tsp medium red flake 1/8 tsp medium blue flake rsinyard you dont have a pic around of how this recipie turns out do ya? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsinyard Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 I haven't tried it yet. I printed out the cookbook posted here and seen that receipe in it. I will try it out and post a pic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDBaits Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 I haven't tried it yet. I printed out the cookbook posted here and seen that receipe in it. I will try it out and post a pic. Cool thanks, i tend to shy away from the cookbook. I really wish posters would include a picture with their recipies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsinyard Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 (edited) Is this the greatest hobby or what. Get 10 minutes to yourself and you can be out in the garage mixing ideas. Here is the fire and ice receipe in the cookbook. I use MF colors so it could be different if you use LC colors. Jim, If you pour a two color sample, please post it. I would like to see it. Edited December 14, 2008 by rsinyard Added more info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDBaits Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 WoW, nice. Tomorrow if I get a chance Ill use LC for the recipie and post it to see if theres a big diffrence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDBaits Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 Heres the color with LC, I added softner to my batch not thinking it might change the color. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 (edited) Jim, If you pour a two color sample, please post it. I would like to see it. Will do. I have the original bait I am working off of also. I can tell you from the photos already that my bait has a lot more flake and barely has any red color to it. Almost as if when the bait was made, the red in the plastic was from the bleeding of the red flake. Might be able to get some done tonight for pictures. Not sure though as I was gone fishing and have a FEW honey-do's on my plate now!!! Jim PS My original bait is a Culprit I think. Edited December 15, 2008 by ghostbaits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 (edited) Ok.... got a chance to pour but my camera is at work. I do have the recipe I use though. Bottom: 4oz 2 drops purple plum (LC), 3 dashes of small (0.15) red flake, 1 pinch of small blue flake. Top: 4oz 2 drops purple plum (LC),1 drop of red (M-F), 3 dashes of small blue flake, 1 pinch of small red flake. If you are pouring a worm, pour the "top" portion into the mold for the body of the worm only filling the cavity about 1/3 of the way only, then pour the "bottom" portion to fill the mold cavity and include the tail portion. I will post pictures of the original bait and some AIR wacky baits I made as well. The only tough part about these is all the flake in the cup. Be careful on your re-heats as the flake will burn if it is settled in the cup. Truthfully, the top portion needs even more flake but I hesitate to get so much that the plastic will barely flow. Jim Edited December 16, 2008 by ghostbaits correction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 Here is a quick shot of the original fire and ice worm I had sent to me a long time ago along with some wacky baits I poured. I am still not completely happy with the color as I did not add enough blue flake for the one side and really used a little to much of the red red side in the mold. Close enough for government work though as I will be throwing these myself! Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsinyard Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 That looks like alot of blue on the one half. Is that the top mixture? I am not able to supersize the picture. I have never seen that style worm. Do you know the original manufacturer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 There is a LOT of blue on that top portion. The first cup I tried to use so much flake in the plastic that I could not pour it well. Not sure who the original manufacturer is on the worm. I did look at some Culprits yesterday in Wally World and noticed the baits have less blue that the worm pictured but there was more red flake in the top part of the bait also. I am going to bet that they all will work about the same. Hope to prove that today!!! Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danrey Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 If I remember correctly Gillraker made this worm . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear21211 Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 (edited) I do not know if I remember Gill Raker Making it but I know Culprit Still offer it. If I remember correctly Gillraker made this worm . Sorry Jim . I Did not read the whole post before I replied. Edited December 23, 2008 by bear21211 Did not Read Well enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 Yeah... When I look real close with my OLD eyes, I can make out the culprit logo on the worm. Its an old one though. I looked at the new ones and they look only slightly different. Still one of the best colors for clear water made IMHO. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
