robertjp Posted January 6, 2004 Report Share Posted January 6, 2004 Since I started trying the Envirotex, 1 issue I have yet to resolve is after it dries I keep getting a drip where the stuff settled.(usually the lowest point) I keep it on the drying wheel 2+ hours. Is that not long enough? Will the hairdryer technique fix this drip problem? I dont want it melting the whole area or is it too late after it dries. I never had this problem with devcon since most of the time it was dry before I could even get it to the wheel. Bob P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mylures Posted January 6, 2004 Report Share Posted January 6, 2004 Hi Bob, it is my opinion that you should leave your baits on the drying wheel longer. I usually leave mine on for about four hours. I think that after only two hours the finish could still sag. Just my opinion but I think if you give it a try you will agree. Thanks and good luck. Ken Schmitz Mylures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackjack Posted January 6, 2004 Report Share Posted January 6, 2004 I may waste alot of electricity but anytime I use an epoxy clear coat I spin the baits a minimum of 5.5 to 6 hours. Never had an issue with drips or runs. Usually I clear coat right before I go to bed then when I get up I turn off the wheel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Splash Posted January 6, 2004 Report Share Posted January 6, 2004 5-6 hours is about right. You can shorten the time by increasing the room temperature. 2-3 hours is enough if I place the drying rack near the wood stove. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMAXX Posted January 6, 2004 Report Share Posted January 6, 2004 RJP Im the same as everybody else I put them on the wheel before I go to bed and take them off when I get up, but the 30 min devcon is usually dry in 2 hours and the cyrstal sheen seems to take 6-8 hours. Vmaxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COLOR ME FISHIN Posted January 7, 2004 Report Share Posted January 7, 2004 I SOMETIMES LEAVE EM ON THE WHEEL OVERNIGHT AS IT GETS COLD UP HERE. SLOW TURN GEAR MOTOR USES VERY LITTLE JUICE, SO THATS NOT AN ISSUE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertjp Posted January 8, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 Tried leaving them on for about 6 hours this time....much better! smoother too. Still a pain mixing this stuff though...guessing at equal amounts. Thanks guys Bob P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mylures Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 Hi Robert, When I mix a batch I use a plastic syringe I got from Jann's NetCraft so I get equal amounts. I am sure you could get a plastic syringe from a Vet animal service or somewhere. I even found plastic syringes in one of those ink refill kits for printer cartridges. You need to use two syringes, one for the resin and one for the hardner. Make sure you use the same syringe for the resin and the same syringe for the hardner each time. I marked the resin and hardner. Hope this helps you out and good luck. Ken Schmitz Mylures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertjp Posted January 8, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 Thanks ken, why didnt I think of that? Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muskie1958 Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 Hi Bob, I use small plastic cups for measuring the resin and hardener. They are about a ounce and a half each. Fill each cup and dump into a paper coffee cup for mixing. This mix will do about 10 -8 inch jerkbaits. Available a Sams or Walmart. I use small wooden sticks made like tongue depressors , only smaller, for mixing. Available at any craft store. If you want to cut drying time to 4 hours and 2 coats instead of 4 , try Crystal Sheen. It is made by the same company that makes Envirotex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazywade Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 Bob i have a couple extra syringes, send me your address and i'll send them to you. i bought a few off ebay, i can spare two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Splash Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 I use disposale plastic spoons to measure, then stir. The two spoons mix is enough to coat about 15- 20 3" baits. You should use a non-pourus material to stir, to avoid extra air bubbles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertjp Posted January 8, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 Muskie, Who said I would use 4 coats of Envirotex?? 2 coats seems like plenty or am I missing something here. Thanks for the ideas guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muskie1958 Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 Bob, I was speaking for myself regarding the 4 coats. The Envirotex is thinner is all the point I was trying to make. I put 4 coats of ENVIROTEX on my baits if I were using it instead of Crystal Sheen. Sorry for the confusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertjp Posted January 9, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 Is anyone else out there using 4 coats of Envirotex? or how many do you use? Thanks Bob P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mylures Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 Hi Bob, I use just one coat but I am using it for small walleye crankbaits. I haven't used it all that long so I may run into some problems but I haven't so far. Ken Schmitz Mylures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plitzzz Posted January 15, 2004 Report Share Posted January 15, 2004 you can put only one coat on if you let it set a while.it will thicken up some this way.keep a close eye on it though and stir often.For some reason if you leave it in the cup to long it will get real hot and harden really fast.If you let it sit to long it may not level it's self out.Try it just keep a close eye on it.Stir if it is geting hard to fast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptown Posted January 15, 2004 Report Share Posted January 15, 2004 I have been using two coats of Envirotex. I have also used CrystalSheen. They are virtually the same product. 6 hours, two coats, no problems(I fish Muskies also). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlander Posted January 21, 2004 Report Share Posted January 21, 2004 I have used ET for my muskie cranks, and put them on a rotissierre motor. It IS in a colder room than the rest of the basement. I seem to do this in the evening and have left it spinning for no more than 3 to 4 hours. I don't trust the wiring in This Old House nor the motor which God knows is how old(?). A second coat of ET is added after the first has completely set up. One other Michigan muskie nut says a tooth can't penetrate a lure with 2 coats of ET Lite. Can't imagine 4 coats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
