paulsvolks75 Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 i just cant get it to work i bought all my stuff from janns including the wire,blades,hooks,torch.the lead just balls up and wont stick? am i missing a step hear ive sweated cooper plumbing joints hundreds of times why cant i get this to work:pissed: please help thanks paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diemai Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 @ paulsvolks75 Don't know much about soldering such small parts , but did some early 2008 , wanted to apply some solder onto homemade brass spoons , just for weighting reasons . I have used a gas-operated torch , which is real hot ! Well , I had 4 or 5 spoons , I had obtained some solder wire for copper tubing , just because it was thicker and would provide more weight ! But similar thing happened ! Though I didn't intend to bond two parts , that solder did not adhere well to the previously cleaned brass , also didn't flow well , so after two spoons I took a break . Still had some different solder wire in my shop , a thinner , finer grade one , refered as radio solder with included flow media(sorry , don't know the exact English term for it) . This one worked a lot better , gave a smoothely flown surface after curing and adhered well , just not as bad as the other first solder . In a nutshell , maybe you should try a different kind of solder ? good luck , diemai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basseducer Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 Paul, Sounds like you may have to add a little soldering flux. I beleive that is what Diemai referred to as flow media. You can get it at most hardware or electrical stores. JMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diemai Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 @ Basseducer Yeah , that's what I meant , not so familiar with some terms:o ! Sorry , if I'd have caused confusion ! Thanks for putting it right:) ! greetz , diemai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulsvolks75 Posted January 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 yeah i knew what you meant i was using the lead wire that janns sells specifically for soldering ice jigs maybe ill try adding some flux to it and see if that helps. thanks for the input paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesehead Posted January 3, 2009 Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 Yup lack of flux is your problem. Use the same flux as you would for soldering plumbing and you'll be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 (edited) You could try cored solder, used for electronics. It already contains a core of flux. It should be available in most hardware stores. Make sure you clean all surfaces, 600 grit emery will do just fine. Keep surfaces clear of grease etc, including finger marks. The hooks may have a protective coating on them, this needs to be scraped off locally. A regular soldering iron will not work, as the blade conducts the heat away too rapidly. So a flame source works better. The problem is that the direct flame oxidizes the surface very fast. So it might be better to heat the blade from the back face. Clean and clamp the parts to be soldered. apply the heat and offer up the cored solder until it flows into the joint. Do not heat the solder, let the joint melt the solder. Capillary action will take care of the rest. Dave Edited January 4, 2009 by Vodkaman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulsvolks75 Posted January 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 vodkaman i like the idea of heating it from behind,haven't tried that yet. I think that with some flux,this is the way to go.Also i am using a small butane torch i bought from janns.I will let you know after i try this how it goes.thanks for the idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimball920 Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 I found that you need 50/50 acid core solder in small diamater. This is available at any hardware store. Every thing has to be very clean as previously mentioned! What I am looking for are solder boards for ice jigs. They hold up to 50 jig and keep the hook in place while soldering them together. Has anyone ever heard of them and knows where to get them? I had the opportunity to purchase one from an individual that was making ice jigs in his home for sale. He became ill and had to quit, so he was liquidating all his equipment. That's how I came to know about them! He told me it was something you could purchase ,but didn't say where. I wish I would have bought them then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulsvolks75 Posted January 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 im assuming the wire i got from janns was what i needed i do know it is very small diameter.it is the stuff they recommended.id like to find one of those boards your talking about kimball920 sounds awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
