Pro-Tec glow powder paints

[psilvers]

Does anyone use these? I have tried the white and the yellow. I paint using a fluid bed, and the paints seem to go on thin. Do I need to use a white base coat? On the white jigs, I did a second round of painting, and it helped the color "fill in".

Also, at what temp, and for how long, do you cure this paint?

Thanks,

Pete

[GCD]

I use them, I believe they're considered an "overcoat". A white base will help, and I like to cure my base coat before applying any other coats. I've gotten away from using white as a base coat as much as possible because I find it runny/drippy. For the yellow, try a fluorescent chartreuse base coat.

Here are the cure times for most pp colors:

White - 10 minutes at 375 F

Yellow Chartreuse - 10 minutes at 392 F

Green Chartreuse - 10 minutes at 392 F

Blaze Orange - 10 minutes at 392 F

Black - 10 minutes at 350 F

Hot Pink - 10 minutes at 392 F

Flame Red - 10 minutes at 392 F

White Pearl - 13 minutes at 325 F

Clear - 12 minutes at 340 F

Bright Green - 10 minutes at 392 F

Yellow - 10 minutes at 400 F

Red - 15 minutes at 350 F

Purple - 15 minutes at 385 F

Glow Overcoat - 10 minutes at 375 F

Brown - 12 minutes at 390 F

Blue - 15 minutes at 375 F

Silver - 10 minutes at 375

Gold - 20 minutes at 375

All Glow Colors - 10 minutes at 375 F

All Transparent Colors - 10 minutes at 392 F

Watermelon - 12 minutes at 390 F

Pumpkin Brown - 12 minutes at 390 F

Hope this helps!

[psilvers]

Thanks. That was a big help!

Pete

[cadman]

Yes these are consider overcoats. On the glow I do the same as GCD, I try to match the glow color with a comparable base color. I still use white base coat for all fluorescent colors. You end up using less fluorescent powder over white than you do over a raw jig. As far as temps go. There is a lot of debate about that, but I use 325 -350 degrees for 15 minutes for all my painting. Also since I do a lot of 5 and 6 color painted jigs with paint from different manufacturers, you have no other options.

Edited January 24, 2009 by cadman

[psilvers]

Thanks Cadman. I didn't realize that the glow paints were intended as overcoats. I will try using them with the appropriate base coats.

Pete

[GCD]

Yes these are consider overcoats. On the glow I do the same as GCD, I try to match the glow color with a comparable base color. I still use white base coat for all fluorescent colors. You end up using less fluorescent powder over white than you do over a raw jig. As far as temps go. There is a lot of debate about that, but I use 325 -350 degrees for 15 minutes for all my painting. Also since I do a lot of 5 and 6 color painted jigs with paint from different manufacturers, you have no other options.

I've also found that temps between 325-350 are optimum for curing and painting!

I use the toaster oven method with an internal thermometer and cure my jigs for 15-30 min., sometimes longer.

Also when painting, I'll preheat my oven and jigs to 350. Then as I open the oven and retrieve my jigs for dipping, I'll return them to the oven and grab another one for dipping. This will lower the oven temp as I usually paint 6 jigs at a time, after the 6th jig, I leave all the dipped jigs in the oven until the temp returns to at least 325. It makes for a real nice finish and you don't have to worry about the jigs getting too hot... reduces dripping too!

[psilvers]

OK. I put on a white base and then added the white glow overcoat. It seemed to come out much better. Two questions:

1- After curing, the white glow paint seemed to make the white base more dull and a bit yellowish. Is this normal? The other option is that I may have cured too long or at too high a temp. Could that account for the results, or is this normal?

2- Can I put Devcon 2T over the glow coating, or wil that quench the glow?

BTW, the jigs REALLY GLOW!!!

Pete