jigman2 Posted January 25, 2009 Report Share Posted January 25, 2009 Hey Ya'll Is anyone powder coating jig's? I recently started making weedless jigs and am having problems with the weed guards. I have poured with the weed guard in the mold, and with pin's in and glued the weed guards in and then powder coated the jig's but my weed guards all show signs of heat damage. Do i need to powder coat them with the pins in and then remove the pin's and glue the weed guards in? And if so how do you keep the paint from cracking when the pin's are removed? Please help this is a big problem for me! Jigman2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reeves Posted January 25, 2009 Report Share Posted January 25, 2009 jigman2, Pour your jig using the base pin. Remove the pin and sprue and prepare for painting. Heat the jig. Insert the pin. Dip in powder. Remove the pin (rotate as you remove), this is all done while the powder paint is still soft, so you have to be quick. Bake to cure. Once cooled, you can glue in the weedguard. I use teflon pins rather than metal ones as they are so much easier to install and remove than the metal type and they last forever. Give this a try and let us know how you do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jigman2 Posted January 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2009 Thanks for the info , where do you get the teflon pins? Jigman2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reeves Posted January 25, 2009 Report Share Posted January 25, 2009 You can get them from C.S. Hyde Company. CS Hyde Company, IL, USA: PTFE Beading (aka PTFE Minature Cord); small diameter from .028" to .150" Select the size you need, i.e. 1/8" = .125 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidefc Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 (edited) I put the jig in the toaster without base hole pin, then put them in before the powder paint to put the pin pitch in the powder and then take it off, so the pin stays cool and does not attack the paint, ready to be used again. I also have the fluid bed, I have so many different jars, so it suits me and not use it, but I found that simply mixing the powder every 2 / 3 jigs and the result is satisfactory. Edited June 21, 2010 by davidefc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troul Hawk Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 I am interested in the teflon pin idea, this is news to me and would be worth a try, but gosh I don't want to buy 25 feet / $70 worth of the stuff. Anyone willing to clip a section off and let me buy it from ya? maybe enough for a dozen pins or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Prager Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 Wooden dowels work well and on smaller jigs, a piece of toothpick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted June 26, 2010 Report Share Posted June 26, 2010 (edited) I am interested in the teflon pin idea, this is news to me and would be worth a try, but gosh I don't want to buy 25 feet / $70 worth of the stuff. Anyone willing to clip a section off and let me buy it from ya? maybe enough for a dozen pins or so. Troul Hawk and others. I have a guy that gets these for me pre-cut to 1" strips x 1/8" (.125) diameter. If you are interested, PM me as I can get them. Once you guys try these you will never go back to metal pins. I even use these for inserts in my lead molds and it works great. No more struggling pulling pins out of jigs. They come out as easy as a hot knife out butter. Below is a pic. Edited June 26, 2010 by cadman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Anderson Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 Troul Hawk and others. I have a guy that gets these for me pre-cut to 1" strips x 1/8" (.125) diameter. If you are interested, PM me as I can get them. Once you guys try these you will never go back to metal pins. I even use these for inserts in my lead molds and it works great. No more struggling pulling pins out of jigs. They come out as easy as a hot knife out butter. Below is a pic. PM sent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted June 29, 2010 Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 PM sent Replied to PM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.C.T. LURES Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 I have been playing with the teflon pins and they work great, still a good idea to get a 1/8" drill bit incase you have a tight fit. You can ream them out by hand, and the weedguards fit great! I glue mine in with super glue gel, works great and one drop is all it takes Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddoglures Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 After pouring 1000`s of jigs each year, mostly with weedguards. This has really been a big problem. This is some of the problems that have come up. With pouring weedguards into jig head, the mold gets hot afterv just a few pours. This really gets the weedguard distorted. Even baking the jigs with weedguard in, will really distort the weedguard if to much heat is used. The best results I have had is putting the weedguard into your jighead after baking and curing paint. This is really a tricky thing to get done without getting to much paint inside the guard hole. Now this can be solved really easy if you have a dremel, Just ream out the hole then glue weedguard inside. i always ream out the holes after taken out of oven, the hot powder coat is real soft at this time. Hope this helps 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 (edited) After pouring 1000`s of jigs each year, mostly with weedguards. This has really been a big problem. This is some of the problems that have come up. With pouring weedguards into jig head, the mold gets hot afterv just a few pours. This really gets the weedguard distorted. Even baking the jigs with weedguard in, will really distort the weedguard if to much heat is used. The best results I have had is putting the weedguard into your jighead after baking and curing paint. This is really a tricky thing to get done without getting to much paint inside the guard hole. Now this can be solved really easy if you have a dremel, Just ream out the hole then glue weedguard inside. i always ream out the holes after taken out of oven, the hot powder coat is real soft at this time. Hope this helps Maddog, Just put pins in your weedguard holes when you are painting the jig and you will never ever have to drill again. I've been doing this for sevaral years and it just plain works. Also if the hole is slightly tight just take one strand of fiber off the weedguard. It works all the time. Finally it is easier to put in the non fused side in the hole versus the fused. The fused side is bigger at the bottom and it has a tendency to flare the weed fibers when forced in. Edited January 7, 2011 by cadman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbslures1 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Hey Ya'll Is anyone powder coating jig's? I recently started making weedless jigs and am having problems with the weed guards. I have poured with the weed guard in the mold, and with pin's in and glued the weed guards in and then powder coated the jig's but my weed guards all show signs of heat damage. Do i need to powder coat them with the pins in and then remove the pin's and glue the weed guards in? And if so how do you keep the paint from cracking when the pin's are removed? Please help this is a big problem for me! Jigman2 The teflon pins work good and you can leave them in the head when you powder coat them and also when you bake them. The paint will scrape off of the teflon easily also. I always remove the pins from the heads before I powder coat the heads and drill the excess paint and lead out of the weedguard hole. I use either a 1/8 drill bit or a number 29 drill bit to drill the hole out, this depends on which size of weedguard I am going to use. I have drilled out thousands of doing it this way. If you leave the teflon pin in when you powder coat the head, you will still need to make the hole larger for the weedguard regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbslures1 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 The teflon pins work good and you can leave them in the head when you powder coat them and also when you bake them. The paint will scrape off of the teflon easily also. I always remove the pins from the heads before I powder coat the heads and drill the excess paint and lead out of the weedguard hole. I use either a 1/8 drill bit or a number 29 drill bit to drill the hole out, this depends on which size of weedguard I am going to use. I have drilled out thousands of doing it this way. If you leave the teflon pin in when you powder coat the head, you will still need to make the hole larger for the weedguard regardless. I also glue the weedguards in using 5 minute epoxy and they are impossible to pull out after a while. I have tried super glue but they can be pulled out easily for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbslures1 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Maddog, Just put pins in your weedguard holes when you are painting the jig and you will never ever have to drill again. I've been doing this for sevaral years and it just plain works. Also if the hole is slightly tight just take one strand of fiber off the weedguard. It works all the time. Finally it is easier to put in the non fused side in the hole versus the fused. The fused side is bigger at the bottom and it has a tendency to flare the weed fibers when forced in. I have never tried gluing weedguard with the unfused end first, I will have to try that, sounds interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 I have never tried gluing weedguard with the unfused end first, I will have to try that, sounds interesting. lbslures I have found this method the easiest for me, without the weedguard strands all flared out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishngame Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 I paint and bake mine. Then I use a drill to carefully drill out the cavity. Then glue the gaurds in. It works quite well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macstackleman Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 Barlow's have the Teflon pin's in there catalog! They are great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfman56 Posted December 5, 2018 Report Share Posted December 5, 2018 www.fishingskirts.com Has very good weed guards they are 6.00 for 100 weed guards and they are Awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrappieJunction Posted January 16, 2020 Report Share Posted January 16, 2020 (edited) I make jigs for Fishing Brush in the river and I drill the cavity after I powder paint them. Then I cure them at 350 for 20 min, then use 20lb or 30lb mono and super glue it in Edited January 16, 2020 by CrappieJunction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
