bryanmc Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 I'm trying to recreate a color made by a local pourer. The color is pretty much straight out of the bottle MF watermelon brown. The problem I'm having is that the original is more opaque (cloudy - hope I'm using the right term in the right place) and dull looking and mine is translucent and shiny. I know I can cloud it with a little white or some salt but then won't I have to adjust the color back darker somehow. If I use white would just adding more of the wm brown bring the color back? Is there another trick to make it opaque without adding white or salt like maybe just adding a bunch more wm brown? I know I could probably experiment long enough and figure it out, but I need this one in a hurry. Thanks TU Bryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dutchman Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 I will try. Adding salt will make it more opaque. However, you will have to add more colorant to make it the color you want as salt will lighten it. If you go this route, add colorant one drop at a time and stir with a metal knife or spoon. I am not sure about adding white. Also, does the original have any glitter added? Adding glitter will sometimes darken the bait. As far as being dull and your bait being shiny - it could be yours is from a mold that has more sealant. Don't know if this helps or not. I do know that Watermelon Brown with large black flake make a killer craw bait. Good Luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitbull Baits Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Sounds like the guy poured them in a POP mold to give it a dull finish. It also may make it look clouded when its not. The rough finish might have something to do with that. The color my be a killer color were he lives. Alot of the craws in Nebraska have a wired greenis brown color to them in certian times of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Sounds like the guy poured them in a POP mold to give it a dull finish. It also may make it look clouded when its not. The rough finish might have something to do with that. The color my be a killer color were he lives. Alot of the craws in Nebraska have a wired greenis brown color to them in certian times of the year. 90% of my pours are done in POP molds and they do not have a dull finish. If you are getting a dull finish using POP molds then you are not sealing them correctly. As for the threads question; post a pic and maybe that will help. There are several ways to make the finish you are looking for. One, as said, is salt. Another is to add a little white pearl powder.(and I mean a little) I don't like adding white liquid color as it takes too much to overcome the strong effect of it; as you said. Hope this helps. www.novalures.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitbull Baits Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Sorry I meant he's pouring in an unsealed POP mold. That would give it a dull, opaque look. With the plaster coming off on the bait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bojon Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Many years ago I only used unsealed POP molds.The lures were always dull.I never noticed that they caught less fish,they looked dull but preformed great. Agree with Nova use a small amount of white pearl powder,and you may get what you want.SMALL amount is the key!!If you think you put in too much,you did.In 4 oz of plastic I would use the amount of 1/2 match head of powder.That isn't a lot.If it doesn't work,try less not more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carolinamike Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 bryanmc, Going from transleuscent to opaque is very easy. The trick is the right shade of the opaque. Most people commonly try to use white to get the effect. White will work with some colors, maybe what you need to do is make you an opaque brown or an opaque watermelon by mixing brown or watermelon with white. Then use this tinted opaque to get out the transleuscence that you want. I hope that makes sense to you. To give you an example, Zoom's pumpkin blue can be a very tricky color to get exact. If you opaque pumpkin coloring and then lighten it up or weaken it down, you get close but not exact. If you take a little red and white and make an opaque pink then use the pink to opaque the pumpkinseed and lighten this color, you can hit it dead on the money everytime. It can be very tricky because it only takes a very small amount to opaque your main color, but I think if you try a tinted opaque instead of a white then you'll probable get the results you're looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
