tylerd1994 Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 hey i got my first order for some 10 inch curltails ..... the person wants 10 purple body red tail worms,,, 5 solid purple ,,,,2 chartreuse with red tails, and 3 white worms......its twenty worms.....do you think 9 dollars shipped seems fair......because ive seen some worms that were plain twenty for 10 bucks shipped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTfishingrods Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 Its all up to you. Whatever your time is worth. Some are going to say its to cheap some will say its about right. Only you know the answer. Will you stay home from a fishing trip to make baits for that price? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassgrabber Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 In my opinion, that is too small of an order (20 of multiple colors) unless the colors are something that more folks will want..Is it a hot color that would warrant you making 50 - 100? If you know that more folks than just this customer will want this color, do a run of 50 - 100 of each. Then you can Fill this order and have the others packaged and ready for sale. Don't just use 1-4 ounces of product for something that only one person will want. (Especially if it is several custom color pours in small amounts.) Make positive use of your time. Set minimum amounts for custom pours. 25- 30 pieces. Figure out how many worms you can make with 4-8 oz of plastic. Here is a breakdown that I did on cost per ounce to give you an idea.. Cost per gallon = 44.00 + tax and shipping (50.00) 128 oz per gallon Approx 0.35 per oz Example: 8 oz of plastic = 60 6" worms 0.35 per oz x 8oz = 2.80 1 hour to handpour Packaging cost per pack = .20ea 4.00 + sales tax per pack of 12 worms = (4.31) 60 pieces = 5 packs of 12 x 4.31= 21.55 (Including tax) Total profit off of 1 hours work minus the material cost = 18.85 (after tax paid) Even if I pay for shipping, (USPS 1st Class) I still end up ahead after selling 5 packs of worms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delw Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 hey i got my first order for some 10 inch curltails ..... the person wants 10 purple body red tail worms,,, 5 solid purple ,,,,2 chartreuse with red tails, and 3 white worms......its twenty worms.....do you think 9 dollars shipped seems fair......because ive seen some worms that were plain twenty for 10 bucks shipped your kidding right? for something like that I would charge 9 bucks per color per bag. so that would be 27 bucks. then he can take out the 3 of this and the 2 of this and give the rest to his friends etc etc. That there would be a complete waste of time to pour and would cost you more to make than it was worth. just ask the guy, when he goes to mc donalds does he order a chicken nugget, 3 french fries 3 onion rings and one ice cube? if he answers no then ask him why. I can't believe some people are that cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitbull Baits Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 I would do it. Just to get your name out. The amount is up to you Just figure how many you can make with a gallon + shipping for the gallon. Then figure how much they each cost tack on a little extra. Then if they say thats too much tell them to go buy Culprits by the pack for each color (LOL). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildtail97 Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 Amen brother !!! If you spend YOUR time making them, make it worth YOUR time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bountiful Waters Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 Not a chance. Don't sell yourself or the profession short. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassgrabber Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 Del I loved your example..1 nugget,3 fries,...LMAO Tyler, just be careful..There are vultures out there. I have only been in business for a couple of weeks and I already have folks wanting me to do 400+ piece orders on my trailers.. 50 of these,75 of those, 100 of these, and they ask me if I can do it and what the price would be.. When I lay it out and tell them the price on the order I never hear from them again. Some people want quality custom designs for next to nothing.. I had one person tell me that he can get 500 chunks for 50 dollars. I told him to go buy them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass-Boys Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Tylerd, I would figure out how many baits you can get out of a 4 oz. batch. and make that your min. of each color.. I get a little more for 2 color baits.. ( example- put 1 colors baits in packs of 10-12 and put 2 color baits in packs of 8-10 and charge the same per pk.)you also need to get started some where.. so its your call..learn as you go.. take in all the info we have posted and do what works best for you.. --- When I figure my cost.. I figure... Plastic,, softner & or hardner,,salt,, color,,,scent,, Glitter,,oil & packaging.... --- scent is exspensive,,the highest cost of all additives,, so use sparingly..but I prefer to always use scent.. ----- for the glitter , softner, hardner, oil, salt, scent,, I price by the teaspoon or table spoon,,,, for color, by the drop.. use an empty color bottle and fill with water and see how many drops of water you get,,, after you get your cost figured,, you can average the cost of batches out.. because some batches use more or less of the additives,,so find a good average cost per batch.. ----- if you are buying plastic by the gallon,, oils,glitters & scents ect,,by the pint colors by the 1-2 oz. I would guess $ 2.00 for a 4 oz. batch.. thats with scent,color,, oil,,,glitter,,plastic,,softner & or hardner.. plus add for packaging.. ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tylerd1994 Posted March 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 he just told me he wanted ten of these worms i had on ebay becuz he missed the auction then he asked if i had zooms salt and pepper and i said no....i told him the colors i had and he said he would just like to have a couple of them....its not really a big deal to me cuz i just make em in my spare time i never have big orders. idk but i just came up with 9 bucks because i would charge 3.50 a pack for 10 worms.....7 dollars in worms 2 bucks to ship........but u guys are right about the custom order crap....but i think he just wants to see them and if he likes them then he will order more..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tylerd1994 Posted March 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Tylerd,I would figure out how many baits you can get out of a 4 oz. batch. and make that your min. of each color.. I get a little more for 2 color baits.. ( example- put 1 colors baits in packs of 10-12 and put 2 color baits in packs of 8-10 and charge the same per pk.)you also need to get started some where.. so its your call..learn as you go.. take in all the info we have posted and do what works best for you.. --- When I figure my cost.. I figure... Plastic,, softner & or hardner,,salt,, color,,,scent,, Glitter,,oil & packaging.... --- scent is exspensive,,the highest cost of all additives,, so use sparingly..but I prefer to always use scent.. ----- for the glitter , softner, hardner, oil, salt, scent,, I price by the teaspoon or table spoon,,,, for color, by the drop.. use an empty color bottle and fill with water and see how many drops of water you get,,, after you get your cost figured,, you can average the cost of batches out.. because some batches use more or less of the additives,,so find a good average cost per batch.. ----- if you are buying plastic by the gallon,, oils,glitters & scents ect,,by the pint colors by the 1-2 oz. I would guess $ 2.00 for a 4 oz. batch.. thats with scent,color,, oil,,,glitter,,plastic,,softner & or hardner.. plus add for packaging.. ------ well okay i get ya there but the only money i am spending is the like 2 bucks a pound plastic off of carolina becuz thats all ive been using....its alot easier for me becuz im not the greatest at colors glitter etc.....and then i dont have to buy it all......soo i thought if i can get 3.50 outa ten worms when i can buy a pound for 2 bucks....im doin all right cuz it aint like i got anything else to do besides bein on here all day...lol.....idk yet i think i will up prices more for the custom orders from now on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Prager Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 I saw your baits up on ebay. They looked great! Way to go Tyler!!! You better make more molds:yay: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass-Boys Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Tylerd, Some times money is not the reason to do things.. if your having fun,, thats all you need,, if you only got 2 bucks a pound into it..then your price sounds good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
