TEE Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 Good morning guys...hoping for a little help. All excited about pouring a new color yesterday...32 oz. of lc 502 with lc colorants, 2 tbs. of heat stabilizer and 1/8 cup of softener in a presto pot at 350-355 checked with a lazer thermo. As soon as I add the glitter, .032 lc blue, it turns green . I tried with a smaller portion in the micro, same thing. I then tried my .062 blue and .015 blue (both lc) and the same thing. Any thoughts? Also, I am by no means trying to cast a poor light on lurecraft products. I don't believe I have ever had a single problem before as I use their stuff almost exclusively...just thought knowing whose products I was using may help in the diagnosis of my dilemma. Thanks in advance for your help. T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveh Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 i make 100`s of black worms with lc blue flake and never had a problem. not sure what is going on. not putting green flake in are you.lol what colorants are you using. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEE Posted March 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 Using lc pumpkin mixed with lc red. You know it is funny about putting in green instead of blue, but i assure you that is not the case. However, I have heard of green flake turning blue so I guess I should use blue flake in my junebug worms and green flake in my Moccassin blue worms. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhorlings Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 I have had this happen when my plastic gets too hot and bleeds out the color in the flake. If I had to guess I would say that is your problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 Has the glitter turned green or just appears green in the light. Cut one open and scrape the plastic off a piece of glitter. There is an explanation: Red and green light make yellow. Yellow and blue light make green. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEE Posted March 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 I had hoped it was the heat, but tried on a lower heat and it still turned but wasnt hot enough to come out of the valve to pour. Will try again tonight, also investigate Vodkaman's theory. Thanks guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassnfool Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 Many green glitters will change color when overheated. Reduce you temperature in the future to avoid this problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhorlings Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 Sorry... I read the post wrong. I thought it went from green to blue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEE Posted March 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 Ding-Ding-Ding...we have a winner. Vodkaman and his infinite wisdom and experience correctly surmised that there would be some sort of prismatic refraction when using the blue flake with the pumpkin and red. I disected an infected worm and removed a green fleck, peeled off the plastic and...WALLA...it was still blue. Good news is that i was sure i had controlled the heat and didnt bleed the flake, showing some simblance of competency, however I had forgotten the age-old addage "Yellow and Blue make Green", which Vodkaman reminded me of yesterday. Thanks to all of you guys trying to help me, now i just need a moccassin blue worm that wont turn my blue flake green. "These guys are good." T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 Have to admit, I felt good about that one, lol. Introduction to color mixing This link is an excellent read, worth the time. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squigster Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 The same thing just happened to me tonight. I was making some watermelon blue flake grubs and added the larger blue flake and all seemed ok. It looked a little on the light side flake wise so I dumped a good pinch or two and walla greenish blue worms. I looked at it and realized that all the blue flake had to have done it since the initial blue flake from the same bottle did not turn it green. Interesting! I wonder how much it actually takes before the hue of the plastic changes color. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitbull Baits Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 Its not the coloring for the plastic. You plastic is to hot for the blue coloring on the flake. I did it last night when making black with blue flake. The left over flake on the bottom of the pot was green, bluegreen and silver. Try pouring a slightly lower temp when using blue and purple flake to see if that helps. You can buy more molds and pour faster. That is sure to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...