Jig Man Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 I have both of the molds and am using the Mustad EWG 9176BLN 28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 (edited) Jig Man, I'll check those hooks, and get back to you in an hour on what mine measure. What you may want to try is this. Put a piece of tape on the inside of one side of your mold, don't cover the cavity you are going to pour. Close your mold and pour the cavity. If this doesn't work take another piece of tape, and put it over the first one. Try and pour again. What you are doing is opening the mold halves to get more air in. At some point you should fill the cavity complete, and it should pour complete. What you also may get is flash around the jig. But you don't want to put so much tape in there that you do get flash...It's best to use hi-temp tape, so it doesn't melt from the temp of the hot mold. Business card in between will work also, tape on the outside..........I'll post in an hour more info for you............ Edited March 22, 2009 by cadman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basseducer Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 Jig Man, Here are a couple more things to try. If you can adjust the flow of your lead, increase the flow slightly until you get better results. Try this one while you increase the flow, put the mold up against the pot so the pour spout fits tightly into the gate on the mold and pour. Having a full pot helps. CAUTION, this method often causes lead to spit out between the mold and the soput. You should wear heavy long sleeve shirts and heavy leather gloves. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jig Man Posted March 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 Like I stated,"Or something I haven't thought of yet." That sounds like a plan cadman. I'll give it a try after I watch a little NCAA BB this pm. I wouldn't even mind a little flash just to get the tail end to pour all the way around. I must have 20 molds and don't have any that give me trouble like this cavity. Thanks a bunch cadman. That is the really great thing about this site. Someone on here has gone through the "fire" and already knows how to put it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jig Man Posted March 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 Basseducer that is the way I had to do it inorder to get any results at all. My pot has no flow adjustment. I just try to keep it flowing fully all the time. Cadman I couldn't find a business card and didn't know what kind of tape to use so I used a penny wrapper from the bank. I wound up with 3 of them folded and placed as close to the 1/2 oz slot as I could get them. By having the mold close to the pot and the gap caused by the 6 thicknesses of penny wrappers I got to about an 80% pour with some flash, but I can live with the flash. I guess it must be the hook diameter. One way or the other I am going to use the 4/0 hooks on the 1/2 oz jigs or die trying. Any more ideas folks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogajiga Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 "Jig Man" I assume your problem is incomplete fill out? In what area? Some of my custom molds will only fully fill the cone keeper collars with heated hooks. Smoothing out the cavity and inlet gate surfaces has improved some of my tuff pouring Do-its. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jig Man Posted March 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 "Jig Man" I assume your problem is incomplete fill out? In what area? Some of my custom molds will only fully fill the cone keeper collars with heated hooks. Smoothing out the cavity and inlet gate surfaces has improved some of my tuff pouring Do-its. That is the trouble I am having. Please tell me how you heat the hooks and how you smoothed out the cavities. I used to use an old spinnerbait mold where I had to torch the hook and wire to red hot and only pour in warm weather inorder to get a complete pour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogajiga Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 (edited) There are a couple of postings regarding heating hooks by staging on the pot rims, in a pan on a hot plate, or with a heat gun. I personally pour pot & ladle so for one-at-a-time pours I do a quick hook dip into the melt immersing ONLY THE AREA INSIDE THE HEAD. Red hot shouldn't be necessary, 2-3 seconds works for me. Do-it molds are cast rather than machined so the cavity surfaces have an orange peel texture which I use a NON-POWERED HAND HELD ball cutter or round stone bit for smoothing if necessary to assist melt flow & fill out. "cadman"'s mold cracking method usually works & I go this extra mile only if it doesn't. BTW, the methods I suggested aren't necessarily the best! Pot dipping probably not a good idea with a bottom pour melter. Edited March 22, 2009 by hawnjigs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 Jig man, you never really explained what the problem was, flash or incomplete pour. I am deducing incomplete. Maybe a photo might help. Red hot lead is not the solution. Maybe it is the lead alloy composition, try a purer lead. You have been around enough to know abou fluxing, so I assume that this is not the problem. With the mold and hooks hot, try a much cooler pour (fluxed). Does it pour without the hooks? Are the hooks clean? Does it pour OK with pure lead? Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jig Man Posted March 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 (edited) Finally I think it is going to work. I was getting flash with the 6 layers of penny wrappers so I went back to 4. I took a hand held hone and smoothed the inlet gate and the neck leading to the cone collar. I heated some hooks in the toaster oven. I held the mold close to the pot. I got all of the jigs to pour just fine. Thanks to all of you because I think I borrowed something from everyone. I sure am glad that is the only cavity that is pouring with difficulty. I have also made myself a memory flogger note which I am going to go put in the mold so I will have it there next time I go to pour. Thanks again. Edited March 22, 2009 by Jig Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
