george12182 Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 I am trying to find the perfect jighead to fish this lure. It is a cabin creek small spider grub. The grub comes in two pieces. It is basically a separate skirt with a 2" double tail So I need a double collar or something to keep it from sliding down. The head I want to fish it with is a 1/8 oz football head. I want the hook to be a 90 degree fine wire size 1. I have come with several ideas. I am wondering what you guys think is the best route to go or if you have any other ideas. This jig head will be for personal use. I do not plan on selling them. 1) Get a custom mold. This is expensive though. Not sure how much still waiting for a price qoute. Also I don't know if they'll be patent ifnringement issues (I have a seperate thread for this). Here's a pic of the jig I'd like a mold for. 2) Do it has a weedless football head that has a double collar that has a 1/8 oz cavity. I though of trying this and filing down the basehole pins to make it nonweedles. However this only excepts 60 degree hooks and the only 60 degree hook I can find that makes a size 1 is eagle claw and I hate eagle claw. The eagle claw 410 is also a heavy wire and I want a fine wire hook. I may try going with a 1/0 mustad 60 degree but from the photos it seems like these hooks run long which will be an issue. Is it hard to modify a mold that calls for a 60 degree hook to fit a 90 degree? 3)Use a single barb football head(already own the mold) and use soft bait glue to hold the double tail in place. It seems like this may be my best option and probably what I may end up going with. The only problems with this is that I do alot of wading and try to keep it as simple as possible. Also the glue is expensive and if your not careful it's easy to get it on stuff you don't want. 4) Add a wire keeper. I tried this and since the grub is so small and the plastic is real soft, it rips the grub up alot. I really don't think this is going to be an option. It's also a pain to make a mold the keepers. 5) Try to dremel another collar on my single barb mold. The problem I think I'm going to have with this is their isn't really much room to work with on the collar of the mold and am not really that experienced with the dremel. The skirt takes up most of the room on the collar and with the quick taper of the collar on my mold I don't think this will be a possibilty. 6)Use a roundhead double collar instead of the football head. This is also something I may end up doing. Sorry about the lenght of the post. I open to all and any ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogajiga Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 (edited) Wouldn't it be less hassle & cheaper to buy the Lunker Grip heads, since they appear to be the configuration you want? Edit: #1 32746 Ultra Points fit my Do-it Shake-it Jig Production 1/8 mold with the ring+barb collar if that helps. Edited March 28, 2009 by hawnjigs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSC Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 Or #3 and just use Super Glue. JSC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george12182 Posted March 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 I would buy the lunker city heads but the only hook size they offer is 2/0 which is too big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george12182 Posted March 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 Hawnjigs, I bought a walleye head mold with the double collar with an 1/8oz cavity for twisters that I am going to use for these until I get the football head dilema figured out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogajiga Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 New Do-it, wasn't aware of it. Might be your best off the shelf option, tho the design concept is quite different from a football. I really like my SC customs, but probably minimum 6 months wait for delivery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jigmeister Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 you can take some brass wire from the hardware store and wrap it on the hook shank below the jighead collar. wrap it with space between each wrap (like a stripe on a barber pole) . I have done this with great results and its pretty easy . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george12182 Posted April 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 I've been trying all different things and each worked some but not great. Then today, I was reading some soft plastic posts and I think I found the answer. The whole time I've been trying to modify the jig to fit the grub. Instead I could modify the grub to fit the jig. I could just melt the skirt to the grub and have a normal one piece lure I could fit on any jig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooksLikeSinbad Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 just melt the skirt to the grub and have a normal one piece lure I could fit on any jig. That's what I was going to suggest. Or, you can try the Keitech Little Spiders I have read a lot of good things about them and they come in 2", 3" and 3.5" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george12182 Posted April 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 Sinbad, I actually just picked up a pack of the little spiders last week. Have you tried them yet. They are definately different. The material it's made out of is almost that of a rubber spinnerbait skirt and its hollow. Because of the material the tails are able to be super thin. The only downfall I could really find is that the colors are really drab because of the material. That probably means more to the fisherman than the fish though. Because of the light material it should really float up which I think would work out good on a stand up type head. I guess the final verdict will be when I finally fish with them. George Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooksLikeSinbad Posted April 4, 2009 Report Share Posted April 4, 2009 Sinbad,I actually just picked up a pack of the little spiders last week. Have you tried them yet. They are definately different. The material it's made out of is almost that of a rubber spinnerbait skirt and its hollow. Because of the material the tails are able to be super thin. The only downfall I could really find is that the colors are really drab because of the material. That probably means more to the fisherman than the fish though. Because of the light material it should really float up which I think would work out good on a stand up type head. I guess the final verdict will be when I finally fish with them. George Hey George - No I have not, but I have heard lots of good things about them. Let us know what you think when you get to try them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogajiga Posted April 4, 2009 Report Share Posted April 4, 2009 "George12182", if you no longer need multiple collar keepers, the 1/8 Cabela's Wobble Jig takes a #1 light wire hook. Like a football head the hook point tends to stay upright even on the bottom but the Wobble falls much slower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george12182 Posted April 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 hawnjigs, I'm gonna check that jig out next time I'm at cabelas, looks interesting. I have a single collar football mold I'm gonna use now that I don't need the double collar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
