george12182 Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 On columbia coatings website under powder additives they have something called powder water. It is supposed to make powder paint like normal paint I think. Anyone ever use this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatman Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 That looks kinda wild but they really don't give alot of info on it. Here's the page: Columbia Coatings :: Powder Water This would be kinda cool for one aspect turn it to water and put in an eye applicator and dot each jig, but it doesn't say how you would cure it etc. Gonna try and send an email and get some more info. Fatman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george12182 Posted March 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 If you don't mind. Please post whatever info you get back from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reeves Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 Fatman, I too would be interested in hearing the results of your phone call with them. Sounds interesting, so please post your findings. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayooper Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 A friend of mine uses this stuff. What you do is mix it I think to a 1:1 ratio powder to the liquid. Then paint it on with a brush. Once it dries, cure like you would regular powder paint. You can use it in an eye dropper and do some cool striping with it, add gills, etc... Hope this helps. Benjamin TJ's Tackle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george12182 Posted March 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 A friend of mine uses this stuff. What you do is mix it I think to a 1:1 ratio powder to the liquid. Then paint it on with a brush. Once it dries, cure like you would regular powder paint. You can use it in an eye dropper and do some cool striping with it, add gills, etc... Hope this helps.Benjamin TJ's Tackle This sounds pretty neat. I think I'm gonna have to try this. Do you know if you have to use it right away after you mix it with the powder or can you store it once its mixed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayooper Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 I am not sure. Let me ask my buddy and I will get back to you. Thanks, Benjamin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatman Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 This is what I got back: Ben had it right on the nose though!!!!! Doug, Yes, you would re-cure again. It would be great for the eyes and whatnots! It will work with all brands but with metallics you will need to test to make sure it blends with before putting on actual production parts. I hope this helps. God Bless, Brian Talley Columbia Coatings www.columbiacoatings.com 931-388-7730 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 This is a little off the beaten path, but about 10 years ago I worked at a company that made big cabinets. They were all red powder paint textured. Well we got some that had small scratch marks, and at the time I spoke to a powder paint company and they told me this is how they touched them up. You take the powder pigment and you mix it with MEK. Once mixed, you apply it with a brush. The powder paint was a liquid, and it did work. I don't ever recall anybody doing this anywhere, and I don't kow why. It definitely clears the sinuses, maybe that's why, MEK has a very strong smell. Just thought I would share some old school knowledge.....I too am very curious about all the above information. Keep this thread going with any updates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayooper Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 I confirmed with the buddy of mine and it is a 1:1 mixture and you can store it in an air tight container for later use. He said you may need to add a little more liquid if it starts to dry out. Hope this helps and good luck!! Thanks, Benjamin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTfishingrods Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 I wonder if it would spray out of an air brush? An airbrushable liquid powderpaint? Am I asking for too much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george12182 Posted April 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 Thanks everyone for all the info. I'm definitely going to try it out but probably not for a couple weeks as I got some traveling coming up. If anyone here decides to try it before that please post your findings as it sounds really promising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatman Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 Ok guys, took all your questions and sent them to the guy I emailed yesterday. As soon as I hear back I'll post here. This stuff sounds kinda neat LOL Fatman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 This sounds very interesting. My big question is about the smell? Is it like vinyl or lacquer? More headaches or is it like water with little or no smell? I will be following this thread as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatman Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 More answers to your questions!! Doug, You can store it for a bit but may have to add some powder water back to it once you get ready to use it. It does dry up a little! Yes, you can thin it enough to go through an air brush but you will need to get a little larger nozzle size to let it go through. Yes, you do cure again, whether it is 10-20 minutes is your call. I usually don't go 20 minutes on something small like you guys are doing. I would only go from 10-15 minutes. I hope this helps. Yes, we have gotten about 10 phone calls on it after it went up on whatever forum you guys are on! Remind everyone, Powder Water is only really good for small stuff like what you guys are doing! It does not by no stretch take over the actual powder coating method with a standard powder gun on large stuff. It just will not lay correctly! God Bless, Brian Talley Columbia Coatings www.columbiacoatings.com 931-388-7730 Fatman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTfishingrods Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 Cool! This is going to be fun to try. Thanks for the info and doing the research for us Fatman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robalo01 Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 Would want to use a solvent based substance in an oven? As I understand it ou are painting and then baking is that right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatman Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 Mt and all Not a problem and Brian was really cool about all the questions plus all the phone calls he got!!!!!!!!!! robalo01 Heat your jigs, dip in powder paint then cure. Mix color and powder water together put your eyes, lines patterns over the cured coat then recure again. As Brian said it might take a few tries with different lengths of time to make sure they cure right. I use the wifes stove but I have to clean it afterwards just the deal we have, but pretty soon I'll have the old stove in the basement as we're getting a new one. Fatman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSC Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 "Fatman" Really appreciate all that good research as I know others on the Forum do as well .. JSC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enderst Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 Just got some of this. Says right on the label 1:1 by weight. I'm not one to measure so does anyone know what the consistency should be? btw, when I placed my order it some how got missed and when I asked about it, Doug replied that they dropped the ball and it was out of stock when he tried to fill my order. He added a catalog and offered a pound of powder to make up for the mishap. Since a pound of powder is a lot for me I asked for a 2oz bottle of Illusion Emerald. All I can say is great customer service. Wouldn't hesitate to order from them again. Sorry for the tangent but I thought I would mention my experience with Columbia Coatings in case anyone hasn't used them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
