finlander Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 Here I sit impatiently waiting for my order from Cabelas, who is waiting for a shipment form Storm. Then I started searching mold company sites. They offer a few but not the detail. Here's a wild question....anyone ever hear of using a frozen fish to make a mold?? Plaster gets warm, might not work. What mold material might set up quickly, before the thaw??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironbarkbob Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 (edited) Here I sit impatiently waiting for my order from Cabelas, who is waiting for a shipment form Storm. Then I started searching mold company sites. They offer a few but not the detail. Here's a wild question....anyone ever hear of using a frozen fish to make a mold?? Plaster gets warm, might not work. What mold material might set up quickly, before the thaw??? I cast some fish years ago before I ever heard of SP and it worked fine. Like you said it does get warm but not enough too cook. I then use some builders silicon to cast the fish. No need for the fish to be frozen either. Robert Edited April 25, 2009 by Ironbarkbob missed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Prager Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 Sift through all of the threads started by CrawChuck He has done many of these and I believe there are detailed instructions in there. I think the only real thing he hasn't molded was the mailman! http://www.tackleunderground.com/forum/search.php?searchid=837978&photoplog_searchinfo=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 Plaster of Paris only gets hot after it has set, so should be no problem. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george12182 Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 Here's a tutorial I stumbled upon a while ago on exactly what your trying to do. I am thinking about trying this with a stonecat. If you try it please post how it works out for you as I am curious. http://www.tackleunderground.com/forum/homebrew-tools/16704-3d-reference-sucker.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlander Posted April 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 Great show!!! That is how I did a mold years back. I still have some plastic in a gallon pail from Del but dont know if it is still good. Been sitting for a few years, 2 or 3 at least. There was a fishing show I saw where bass pros seemed to be using these Storm's in Erie for bass. Back order keeps getting pushed back for Cabelas. Their detail looks incredible. Other company's gobies look bland. Thanks for the help, I was really surprised that someone had tried this method. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 Real life is not good enough. You take a splash of the real life (female/ negative), then you make a positive/life duplication, then you make the mold. Three itterations, each incurs losses. The result is a bland representation of the original. Even if you faithfully reproduce the detail of the original in the third generation, you are still not going to satisfy the customer. He/she sees scales on the original and expects to see exagerated scales on the copy. He/she rarely sees the subtality of the original. Do the fish even see this subtality. Are we catching customers or fish? It all comes back to the age old question of easthetics or action. A pretty stick or a bland lure that has ation. Which catches fish? Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlander Posted April 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 When i say bland I mean the Gulp line of poured baits, They dont resemble a goby, more like am eel. Storm looks like a wwinner. Just hope to get my hands on some soon. May have to keep ordering thru the summer to stay in supply. I wood carve figures and I suppose i could try to carve a goby, to use it in place of the real one. Will keep you posted... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 (edited) A goby isn't too hard of a fish to carve. Just focus on the things that most people think of when they think of a goby. Eyes, mouth, cheeks, being the main things most notice. Now those a little more familiar might point out some others but for lure purposes stick with those and you will be good. I sprayed on a mold release thick to create a stippling when the bait was molded for "scales". A two piece or one piece will also make a difference in the look. I included both a single sided pour that came from two piece mold made from the master. Realism to me isn't very important when it comes to fishing but I do it more so to differentiate what I pour. I think designing a good looking and functional bait is more about artistry and for me what I find custom tackle making to be about. With todays information and supplies anyone can heat up some plastic and pour into mass produced molds and get the same results. I made a goby bait several years ago and have used it off and on. I pour it both as a full round and then as a single sided. Single Master for Two piece Edited April 26, 2009 by Travis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
