u63405 Posted January 26, 2004 Report Share Posted January 26, 2004 I'm interested in doing a replica of a Gary Dee Bait, specifically the tiny d shad. Wondering if anyone has made this before and if they could provide me with some specs (i.e., lure design, weight, size, etc.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeeter Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 I don't own any of his baits. To get the thing exact, you will have to buy one and dissect it. Skeeter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
u63405 Posted January 27, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 Thanks Skeeter. I figured I might have to do that but wanted to see if anyone has made them. Gary Dee baits were featured in the Jan. 2004 BASSMASTER under the "Six Best Baits, You don't know about". They looked pretty interesting and I wanted to try my hand in making one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeeter Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 Well that is just if you want it to be as close to an exact copy as you can get. I am sure that I can help you get pretty close. I believe that he has the size of his lures on his site. Pick one and give me the size and I will try and help you with it. Alot of his baits are wire through construction and 3/8ths thick. Lurehead03 Pretty damn good. Looks awful close to me. Skeeter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackjack Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 anyone wanting the dbait schematic let me know and I will send it to you via a PDF. file. I have taken a bunch apart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
u63405 Posted January 27, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 thanks guys for the responses. lurehead, great lookin' lure. looks exaclty like the dbaits. Skeeter, I wanted to try and replicate the 2 5/8" black shad. as a matter of fact, i've already cut out the pattern on basswood and have even added about a 1/2oz of weight. I didn't want to go any further until I could get the correct patterns (side view, top view, weight, etc). blackjack, I appreciate it if you would send me that pdf file to my email address at u63405@earthlink.net Thanks again gents for your help! I'm really excited about continuing this project the right way. Any other info that you can provide me with will be greatly appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeeter Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 Even though I have not made anything out of basswood, I would think that 1/2 oz. of weight it too much. You might want to try 3/16 or 1/4. But I would trust BlackJacks schematic. It is probably the most accurate data that you will find. Skeeter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 Craiger, Send it to me too please! Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackjack Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 Since everyone seems to want this pattern I'll post it here!! The original bait is a thru wire bait, but I have modified it as to make it a no brainer. You can resize to whatever size you would like the different color lines are for: Blue line= angle of the lip slot first red line = the depth of the lip slot cut second red line = the location of the bellyweight the green lines = are used to drill the line tie and the rear hook hanger the green lines are perpindiculars (right angles so that when you place the bait in a vise to drill the line tie and rear hook hanger are placed perfectly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coley Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 Thanks blackjack. Coley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackjack Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 I have not seen any difference between the my d bait and the original as to how they run. They both run great and both catch fish mine is more simple to build enjoy guys and lets see some of the finished baits here is a lip pattern to fool around with also!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 Good job Craig and Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
u63405 Posted January 28, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 thanks blackjack! I'll post a pic soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassNator 1 Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 Hey Black Jack.... AWESOME POST! Thats the kind of "NO BRAINERS" I need to help me going on some decent running baits. If you cant tell with my Homer Simpson Emoticon..... I NEED SOME HELP! DOH! Cody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackjack Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 The bait is 3/8" thick and I usually start with about 4 gms of lead although I have gone up to 6.25 gms on a couple of baits when I made some suspenders and sinkers. Alot of guys overlook a sinking bait but it can be a very effective tool to fill up that livewell. I like to take a sinker and cast it along a steep drop or bluff and count it down to 10 or 12' and crank parallel to the shore. I have caught some monster smallies and largemouth throwing small sinking baits using this technique. So if you guys ever end up with a sinking bait dont throw that baby away put it in the tacklebox and give it a try when nothing else is working. I promise you will be surprised!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Mike Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 I don't understand the two green lines going vertical and the drilling process while in the vise? Maybe I just a dummie. Can someone give me a visual . THanks Big Dummy T Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackjack Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 mike here is how you use the lines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeeter Posted January 29, 2004 Report Share Posted January 29, 2004 Blackjack, That is the best illustration I have ever seen to build a bait. You have given anyone everything that they need. If someone can't build this bait with this information, then they just might as well just throw their tools in the garbage. Plain killer. Skeeter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaBasser Posted January 29, 2004 Report Share Posted January 29, 2004 Great info Blackjack, Fantastic illustration and how-to. I`m going to make afew of these. Will post the pictures PaBasser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassNator 1 Posted January 29, 2004 Report Share Posted January 29, 2004 Hey Skeeter, I agree with you 100%!! I have right now 2 Balsa lures I carved hanging with the primer on them and weighted ready for paint. I was psyched about trying Chips idea on the Poplar from earlier posts, so I carved out another 7 lures out of Poplar. 3 sets of 2 are pretty close in size and diamater! Im psyched about how they came out and how close I got at making a duplicate of each size. The seventh one is kind of like Chips 5 inch trout.... but Im gonna make him a deep diver! I got to weight them and Prime them up and paint them. But after reading this post, Im pretty psyched about taking the rest of the Poplar and creating that bait from the plans posted. Im almost ready to throw out the others..... , but I cant do that! I put too much LOVE INTO THEM! For the Computer illiterates, I took the plans given, copied it, opened up the MS Paint program and pasted it into there. I think I had to either make it smaller, or larger cant remember offhand by clicking on Image, go to the stretch/skew and change the numbers. If you have to make it bigger, try 110 % each way... height & width. You must resize each one the same number or it will be askew, UNLESS THATS WHAT YOU WANT! Then print it... if you have to make it smaller... try 90%. Print it out and when its the right size you got your plans! I hope Im not p-oing anyone off or breaking copyright laws on here by doing that, but it is a piece of cake and thats the great joy of computers. Hey we got a LURE MAKING NAPSTER HERE!! Skeeter, If I cant make this lure work I will take your advice and I will SELL my tools! Cody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassNator 1 Posted January 29, 2004 Report Share Posted January 29, 2004 Hey Guys, IMHO, I believe the magic numbers on the stretch & skew for the lure plans AND also the lip design given in MS Paint (ON MY COMPUTER) is 60%!!! That will get you a lure that is about 3 1/2 inches... depending on how much you carve off. That with the lip design gets you pretty darn close UNLESS you want bigger or littler! Hope that helps everyone out AND doesnt cause copyright problems! Cody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coley Posted January 29, 2004 Report Share Posted January 29, 2004 Hey blackjack, Is the lip pattern in direct proportion to the bait pattern?? What I am really asking is, would 60% size lip work on a 60% size bait?? Thanks, great job on all of this, Coley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackjack Posted January 29, 2004 Report Share Posted January 29, 2004 guys the lip is just a hair longer than 1.25" and at its widest point it is just shy of 3/4" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassNator 1 Posted January 29, 2004 Report Share Posted January 29, 2004 Hey Coley, since these are general measurements I gave you from the computer, and I think I kind of made it somewhat easy... lol I would guess by my eye that the lip is a little larger when compared to the picture of the completed lure. Maybe a 10% smaller would get it right on... ????? I dunno? I guess what we REALLY need from Blackjack is the COMPLETE Schematic! Black Jack you can email me at cdslms@aol.com I would appreciate it. But even following this plan, you will need to play with it and work on it. It sure makes it a heck of a lot easier and gets you started with a good setup! IMHO! I took the info we had from this post.. which again is awesome and tried to get you in the ball park. At least it works for me, I think I might get an at bat with this without striking out!! You got to use your creative bones to make the bait your way.. or figure the rest out. Thats why this is truly art and a craft. Thanks for listening to my sermon! AMEN! Cody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackjack Posted January 29, 2004 Report Share Posted January 29, 2004 Guys the original plans were done in Microsoft Photodraw(part of the Microsoft Office 2000 software pack). It is a vector based program that is incompatable with almost every other drawing program. If you have this program I can email you the original schematics(the originals are balls on accurate) otherwise I have to send it as a jpeg file (hence the resizing issue) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
