GB GONE Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 With most of our baits, we want to have a high bouyant plastic product. With stick baits, and other baits we add salt to, starting with a sinking plastic would be a benefit. Just noticed that M-F is offering a sinking plastic in medium and soft. I know I am going to check it out for my swims as well. Might help to keep them down in the water column better with less (or no??) weight in the bait or on the hook.... Anybody checked it out yet??? Like to hear comments. Jim PS It is a little more pricey it seems but just like other M-F stuff, I think I might get what I pay for... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 With most of our baits, we want to have a high bouyant plastic product. With stick baits, and other baits we add salt to, starting with a sinking plastic would be a benefit.Just noticed that M-F is offering a sinking plastic in medium and soft. I know I am going to check it out for my swims as well. Might help to keep them down in the water column better with less (or no??) weight in the bait or on the hook.... Anybody checked it out yet??? Like to hear comments. Jim PS It is a little more pricey it seems but just like other M-F stuff, I think I might get what I pay for... For the swims you will still need a weight Jim or the bait will roll. www.novalures.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted July 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 Ooops Nil.... I meant swims other than the hollow/hollow belly.. Should have been more clear! :-) Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pastorshane Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 Have not tried it yet jim but am going to see about some that sounds like a awesome thing to think of for lots of possibilities!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikefishnfl Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 It would be my thought that a sinking plastic would also not have the same concerns with salt bleaching the color? Am I off base on that thinking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pastorshane Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 The less salt you have the more clear of colors you will have in most cases. I'm not sure how the action would be with out salt and what not but it does have lots of perks to it for sure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camrynekai Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 I just got mine and I cant wait to use it. It would be nice if it works so that I wont have to deal with all the negatives of using heavy salt in my sticks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pastorshane Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 We are tournament testing some this week end. It has a nice texture and is deffinetly more dense than other stuff. I looks promising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camrynekai Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Well here is the results. Not what I was hoping for...but damn close. Low odor, crystal clear, holds up very well to prolonged heating, awesome hook holding ability, a nice velvety texture, very flexibly, but the sink rate isn't quite as fast as a standard Senko, its about half the rate. I added about 1/3 the amount of salt in order to achieve the proper fall rate and with the higher density of the new plastic I noticed that salt suspends extremely well...to the point that it really just doesn't settle. I then went to the lake for a real test. Fished for about 2 hrs. caught 18 bass and only used 2 sticks....that's about 10 baits saved in one evening another bonus is the baits are clear because I only need 1/3rd the salt...now I can make a real Brown-Grape Outta the box this stuff RULES for drop shot baits....way to many drop shot baits on the market are way too buoyant...and you just don't get the action out of them when the tail of the bait wants to point up to the surface...with this sinking plastic the bait stays perfectly horizontal the way its supposed to for a drop shot bait. I was hoping that this stuff would sink as fast as a Senko so that I could utilize all my existing pouring equipment, but it falls short for that....how ever with all the added benefits listed above its a winner by far and did I mention I didn't use any softener...wasn't needed because of the lack of heavy salt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted July 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Well..... My thunder is gone!!! I wanted to post almost the same results regarding the sticks and drop shot baits as I have found my plastic for those baits for sure.... Most impressed by the durability of the final baits. The reduction in salt content allows the bait to stay together much better. I also like the ability to make motor oil, brown grape and other "changeable" colors as mentioned previously. I think this plastic is what some of us have been looking for for sticks. I may actually end up liking stick making now... Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Prager Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 WOW, I guess I might as well not even wait for my sample and just grab a 5er! Thanks for the great feedback! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Prager Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 I was hoping that this stuff would sink as fast as a Senko so that I could utilize all my existing pouring equipment, but it falls short for that....how ever with all the added benefits listed above its a winner by far and did I mention I didn't use any softener...wasn't needed because of the lack of heavy salt. What method of pouring the sticks did you have difficulty with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camrynekai Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 What method of pouring the sticks did you have difficulty with?I have a slew of Lee pouring pots that I use for my standard baits...but they cant handle the salt content that is required for sticks...lots of clogs. I use Pyrex and the micro but would rather use my Lee's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted July 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 I ran a small batch through my Presto Pot with ease.... No plugging or problems. Course, I really didn't have many issues with the others that had a lot of salt either... Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Prager Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Sounds like some good stuff! I bet the baits look great! Is any softener needed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBC Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 I poured some sticks last night. I was able to get my standard density for the sticks with a fraction of the salt. I can now make whatever color I want since the baits are nearly clear before dye/flake. Are the rest of you using the soft or medium? I had some medium to test and the baits are a little harder than I was hoping for. I may just end up using some softener when I get my 5 gallon bucket. I will be field testing this weekend and will post my findings next week. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Prager Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Thanks for the post. Was any softener needed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBC Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 152, I am going to end up using a little softener from the results I got last night. I will have to wait for my 5 gallon jug to figure out how much though. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camrynekai Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 I purchased the soft formula and no softener was needed, as I stated above. With only needing 1/3 the salt, the baits remain as if they had no salt in them at all. I have been fishing with them (8" custom stick baits and Dels 7" Stick bait) and the durability is a minimum of twice as strong as our standard mix. I still like the wiggle that Ozark plastic has but the benefits this new M-F sinking plastic has is huge!!!....I think that I'm going to do a blend of 80% M-F sinking and 20% Ozark and see what I get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Prager Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 152,I am going to end up using a little softener from the results I got last night. I will have to wait for my 5 gallon jug to figure out how much though. Eric Thanks, Eric. I received a pint of the soft as well so there really isn't room for much error. I purchased the soft formula and no softener was needed, as I stated above. With only needing 1/3 the salt, the baits remain as if they had no salt in them at all. I have been fishing with them (8" custom stick baits and Dels 7" Stick bait) and the durability is a minimum of twice as strong as our standard mix. I still like the wiggle that Ozark plastic has but the benefits this new M-F sinking plastic has is huge!!!....I think that I'm going to do a blend of 80% M-F sinking and 20% Ozark and see what I get. Thanks, Camrynekai. I would think you could achieve the same "wiggle" with just using the sinking plastic only. If the fall rate you are getting is the same as you did before, maybe add a little softener.........Just a thought. I've always tried to get my sticks about 12 grams and adjust the wobble by adding softener and hope they don't tear up like a Yammy. I guess that would be the perfect stick! Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
