.dsaavedra. Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 how do you get your name on the bottom of the bait? i used to write it on there with a pen but that gets really tricky, and my new clearcoat causes pen ink to run. i'm looking for a new way. do you guys use a label of some sort? i wonder if a pencil would work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 I use a fine point calligraphy pen ($2 at Michaels). Createx black is usually the last thing I put on a bait for the kill spot so I just dip the pen in the airbrush cup. It's acrylic latex paint and won't run. The black has very finely ground pigment and flows well. Some other colors may not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.dsaavedra. Posted August 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 hmmm i haven't tried caligraphy pens. i have a set laying around too. i might use thinned acrylic paint, since thats what i use to paint the bait (i don't paint the bait with thinned paint though). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balsa butcher Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 ITOYA water-based pens work great. I got them at Hobby Lobby and they don't run when an epoxy clear coat is used and I'm sure they would work with other clear coats as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcarman Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 I use Testors decal paper. You can print right on it from an inkjet printer, or by hand with a pen, then you seal it with a spray on material to keep it from running. Here is a link to the package... Testors Most hobby stores carry it. It's a little delicate, but once you get the hang of it no problem. And, it is so thin, the top coat goes right over it no issues! Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KandyBass Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 i use an ultra fine sharpie but it will run with your clear i think. it works fine with D2T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danderson Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 I used to use the sharpie but had problems with the running. Then I remembered the calligraphy pen suggestion and won't do anything else now. I do it just like BobP said. Works great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 I agree with jcarman. Decal Paper is what I use. You can utilize any font or design your computer as to offer and by doing small print I can get 80 to 100 on a sheet of decal Paper. Then just cut them out and using tweezers or whatever use want dip them in warm water and apply. I use a spray can of clear acrylic to give them one or two lite coats over the entire sheet before you cut them out. I use a couple different epoxies over my lures with no problem. The neat thing is you have your own supply whenever you need them. One at a time or a batch. Good Luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladesandbaits Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 (edited) If you decide to stay with hand signature: Sakura Pigma Micron Pen - BLICK art materials Regards, Blades Oh--- forgot ------ It wipes right off if you mess up and a "do- over" When it dries (10 minutes or so) it wont pull or smear when you apply devcon. Edited August 24, 2009 by Blades and Baits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.dsaavedra. Posted August 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 thanks for the suggestions guys. do you think india ink would run with a clear coat that makes regular pen ink run? india ink is what i usually use w/ my caligraphy pens, i guess i'll just have to try it with the clear on a test bait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b75nweav Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 If your using D2t any kind of clear over the sig. will work. I use createx clear and never have a problem, but with D2t you can use almost any clear. I do the same when dipping Dick nites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.dsaavedra. Posted August 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 what i did was i wrote my name on a bait with india ink and with black acrylic paint thinned to the consistency of india ink, and then dipped it in my clear. india ink ran like all get-out!!! but this was to be expected... the thinned acrylic however was fine. this is how i'll sign my baits. i was VERY suprised how fine i could write with the caligraphy pens, thanks Bob! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 A clearcoat containing solvent, including ETEX epoxy, will make a solvent based ink run. If india ink is solvent based, it will run just like a Sharpie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diemai Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 I use a black permanent felt pen(the type to label CD's)on bright base colors , ......on dark base colors on the lure I utilize a gold or silver ink pen(the kinda also rodmakers use) . Both of these inks are vulnerable to some topcoats , so I always apply two layers of acrylic clear over the writing , never had problems of it running this way ! good luck , diemai:yay: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68KingFisher Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 If you decide to stay with hand signature:Sakura Pigma Micron Pen - BLICK art materials Regards, Blades Oh--- forgot ------ It wipes right off if you mess up and a "do- over" When it dries (10 minutes or so) it wont pull or smear when you apply devcon. Yep....this is what I used....these are great pens....i've used them for artwork for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.dsaavedra. Posted August 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 hmmm the thinned acrylic worked fine on that test bait, but when i tried it on my other baits it didnt' work so well. it wouldn't "flow" from the pen like india ink does. and my pen kept wanting to dig into the clear coat (i was applying it inbetween clear coats) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 I have a photo program on my computer and was wondering if you could incorporate different designs or logo's when using the Testor's decal paper? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clemmy Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 Two other pens that work: Posca by Uni and Sharpies, but you need to specifically find the WATER BASED POSTER PAINT pens... Both of these are acyrlic paint pens Posca is by far the best I've personally used, but pricy... Clemmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeyedave Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 I use a fine point calligraphy pen ($2 at Michaels). Createx black is usually the last thing I put on a bait for the kill spot so I just dip the pen in the airbrush cup. It's acrylic latex paint and won't run. The black has very finely ground pigment and flows well. Some other colors may not. good idea bob i think im gona try that.im going to the craft store tonight:worship: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.dsaavedra. Posted August 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 i don't think the pigment was fine enough in my black acrylic paint. this may be why it didn't want to flow. i may try some other colors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoopa Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 If you decide to stay with hand signature:Sakura Pigma Micron Pen - BLICK art materials Regards, Blades Oh--- forgot ------ It wipes right off if you mess up and a "do- over" When it dries (10 minutes or so) it wont pull or smear when you apply devcon. Just got one today at hobby lobby, I must say that these are some amazing pens. They are really small at the tip... now i just have to figure out how to make my signature look epic:? Thanks, Jacob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR KNOW IT ALL KIND OF Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 I use the same Pen JT's uses.. Great pens... Just dont leave the cap off.. I do that alot and they arent cheap.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lure--Prof Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 DSV, This is what it boils down to: If you're using Etex, Dicknite's, or another solvent containing clearcoat, signatures needs to be sealed with a non-solvent containing clear. As Devcon does not contain solvent, if that is your clearcoat, most any of the pens will work. By the same token, you can use a bit of Devcon to seal your sig from the solvent containing clearcoats. If that takes too long, you are not cycling your lure work effectively, or you're too impatient...but not so impaitientyou can't wait and see how this question might be answered on two different websites! Dean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.dsaavedra. Posted August 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 i'm using a waterborne polyurethane as the my clear coat. it makes regular pen ink run and so i thought it would make sharpie smear, but i just tried out a sharpie on the test bait, and it turn out it didnt smear. i also tried a sharpie pen, and i'm waiting for the ink to dry (i can smear it by touching it). i have a feeling this is going to run. whats wrong with asking in two different places? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lure--Prof Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 DSV, FWIW, my usual method of signature application is with an Extra-fine Sharpie between coats of brushed-on Dicknite's. I apply a coat of clear Createx or Parma Fascolor gloss clear and heat-set it before my next coat of DN. This has worked very well for me the last 3 years. I don't know that there is anything wrong with posting this question simultaneously on 2 different websites...but why would you? Do any conspiracy theorists out there care to comment? Dean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...