21xdc Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 (edited) Anyone know where I can buy pre poured/painted inline spinners with a keel so you don't need to use a swivel on your line? I want one that I can tie a round rubber skirt onto. I think I have seen something like this before, But I can't find it. I'd like to find some in the 1/4-1/2 oz range. I would consider pouring my own too, If someone can show me where I can get the molds. This is more like a musky bait that I will be using for bass fishing at night. Thanks... Maybe something similar to this. I will be putting the blade on the front and hook in the back. Edited August 29, 2009 by 21xdc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 They use to have a mold for this way back in the day, before everybody started suing everybody. That is an Erie Dearie and that mold is not currently made that I'm aware of to the public. You might be able to find one on e-bay, but I haven't checked in awhile. PM sent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21xdc Posted August 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 I know it's an Erie Dearie Thats where I got the pic.. I'd rather have a minnowhead with a collar, But beggers can't be you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basseducer Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 Hagen's has them in 1/4 and 3/8 oz. on page 104 of their 09-10 catalog. I couldn'e find them on their website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROWINGADUBAY Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 I just made some like you described out of the do -it ultra minnow spinner bait mold I just use straight wire instead of the pre formed wires they have a great collar to tie or use collars on I use them to tie flashabou I went down to the dam with my first one to see if it would work and on the very first cast I caught a 47" musky I think it works O.K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21xdc Posted August 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 I have that mold, But I'm not sure it has enough keel to keep a number 5 colorado from spinning/rolling the bait.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diemai Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 (edited) @ 21xdc Some years ago I had mailordered a few of these spinnerbodies(unpainted) from :-:-: Lure Making :-:-: The Official LureMaking.com Website | Tackle Components | Lure Components | Lure Making Information | Lure Making Supplies , located in Ontario/Canada . Here in Germany there are some triangular weights available , that one can attach to the line-tie of any small to medium sized spinner to render it a weight-forward spinner , always carry a few of these along in my boat tackle box . You might also utilize an oval or teardrop inline sinker , rig some wire through it and kink the wire arm ahead of it a little upward to have the line tie a bit upward of the sinker , ......this prevents line twist as well(but does not look too good , I admit:huh:) I have also made experiments with weight forwards having a sinker inline , not offset . To prevent twisting , I had rigged TWO "hatchet" or "Doc Shelton" blades behind one another . These blades are available clockwise and counterclockwise spinning(one is little smaller than the other) , so this has eliminated line twist as well . But the ultimate keelweight of a weight forward spinner is the one of the famous Swedish "M Edited August 29, 2009 by diemai providing link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21xdc Posted August 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 (edited) Thanks alot guys... I think I found what I want. Not sure how I missed it though. Do it makes a keel model buzzbait in the sizes I want and has the forward wire and skirt collar where I need it. Now I'm gonna look for a used one or just buy a new one. This project is for next season and I'm looking forward to catching some night bass on it. Do-it Molds: Buzz-Keel Buzzbait Edited August 30, 2009 by 21xdc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21xdc Posted August 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 Do you guys think this will have enough keel to keep it from spinning as an inline spinner with a #5 colorado blade? 3/8 I mean specifically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diemai Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 @ 21xdc A colorado blade generates the most circular force of all blade styles and spins almost 90 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21xdc Posted August 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 You must not have read the first post. I'm not using the buzzbait wire frame, Just the mold. I will be using a strait wire and making an "Inline" spinner. I have been pouring and making baits for 20 years. I am getting tired of blade hits at night. I have 3 models I made in spinnerbaits with hooks on the blade arm, etc. I want to try building an inline spinnerbait w/o getting line twist and using swivels on my line. Similar to these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diemai Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 @ 21xdc Shame on me:o:o:o , ......really overlooked that ,... I am sometimes so focussed on weird bait constructions , ........sorry:worship: ! I have seen triangular keel weights cast on a wire coil to tie bucktails on ,.... I guess , you mean such design , but with the weight cast rigid onto the center shaft to assure the hook to ride upright . But I believe , that for this purpose the buzzbait head would not be deep enough , not providing sufficient keel effect . Do you want your keelweight ahead of or behind(hidden under the skirt) the blade ? I have tinkered a bit with different inline spinner designs during the past 15 years . I have tried making them weedless by rigging a heavily weigthed and deeply bent worm hook ,....... with smaller blades it really avoided twist and rode upright more or less . Also made some with the tag end of the line tie eyelet bent about 90 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21xdc Posted September 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Well, I ordered the mold and clevises today from JannsNetcraft. I will post my results after I make some prototypes and test them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diemai Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 @21xdc Alright , good luck with it:yay: , ........eager to know about your results as well ! greetz , diemai:yay: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROWINGADUBAY Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 I should have mentioned that I was using 1 1/2 & 2 oz heads on the spinners with number interlocking # 8 indiana blades my mold was made from the ultra head jig mold the nice part is I don't get hung up on half of the stumps I used to with the two big 8/0 single hooks I have on there and my hook up might have dropped a little but my fish landed went up!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROWINGADUBAY Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 (edited) and I would use at least a half ounce prefering 3/4 or 1 oz but I don't think line twist would be an issue with that set up I also found less lure spin with a thicker blade Edited September 2, 2009 by paintsniffer more info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21xdc Posted September 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 Well, I poured 6 to play with. I used some #4's and #5's colorados and different spacing from the head. The baits take a hard pull to start the spinning. They don't roll or spin unless the long skirt lays across the hook weird on that individual cast. I will keep playing with it though... I have some other blade ideas I want to test. Anyone try these? ROTO BLADES NICKEL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diemai Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 @ 21xdc Quite a few years ago I did experiment with these as well , but for some reason I did not like them , .....guess it was only because they don't look "traditional" . I could get them only in quite small sizes over here , anyway . But what I seem to remember is , that they cause quite a vibration to the entire lure , causing it to "tremble" somehow . I guess , that is because they spin a little slower than an "ordinary" blade , so the circular force and weight of the single prop blade make it act that way . I can imagine , that if the single prop blade was large and thus heavy enough , it could have an effect on the trailing skirt and transmit that "tremble" into the skirts strands . greetz , diemai:yay: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21xdc Posted September 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 I bought a thousand of each size many years ago and they shook the spinnerbait hard, But added so much weight to the traditional spinnerbait arm, they did not track strait and rolled. But I got rid of them except for the smallest size. They wont do me any good. I think they might work well spinning on this center shaft type bait. They shake harder because they don't spin in harmony with the water like a spinner blade, They are a one blade prop that is forced to spin on two axis's. Put a one blade prop on your boat and see what you get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
now thats a fish Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 Kinda late on this one....Moore's Lures sells them. Not sure where he gets his or maybe he pours them?? They're very helpful when it comes to questions! I've been real curious about coming up with a similar design. If not, good luck w/ the BuzzBait mold. Nice 47", Paintsniffer.....post some pics! "MUSKY-HOUN We have re-introduced the Musky-Houn. This was the original weight forward muskie bucktail. The original Musky-Houn produced 33 TOP 10 fish in the old "Field & Stream" contest from 1935-1961. Front keel weight, real bucktail on a keel-weighted 5/0 treble with an attached 2/0 trailer treble hook." Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
