sinyo Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 in here,we mostly fish on commercial pond( U paid what u got) this pond not big like a natural lake 2 times i have participate on gathering with the other anglers( 7-10 persons), we always got disappointing result on those gathering...the fish wont bite our cranks it's very different story if we fish in small group (2 persons)... i don't understand why it's happen? the best answer i got is, fish will run away or hide if they see lures parade.LOL have u has similar experience or answer about it??please share on this topic PS : the pond size around 10x20m. each angler has gap around 1 meter thx ernest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 And I thought that the UK waters were over fished! I have seen such ponds in my travels around Bandung, many of them much smaller than you describe, with a dozen people fishing them. It always made me smile. In such a confined space, the fish soon learn what is food and what is immitation. Also, if everyone is throwing cranks, it must feel to the fish like it is raining bricks! I have not fished in Indonesia yet, but I have seen many large natural lakes. Have you fished these? Any good? what kind of fish? I'm sure members would like to see a pic or two of the type of fish that you catch. I visited some friends in a mountain campung (village) once and was tasked with catching a few fish for the meal. The pond was 5m x 3m. I struggled to catch anything with the bread that they gave me, so I used some pork luncheon meat that my wife had bought earlier that day. Very successful. The dinner guests congratulated me on my catch and asked many questions. I made the mistake of telling them about the pork meat. One woman threw up and refused to eat any more. The others laughed, but I felt so embarrassed. Sorry for the digression. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinyo Posted October 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 raining brick...yes you're right that what i was thinking too. after that the fish will see submarine parade running across the water:D almost every natural lakes or rivers in Java has a poor species of fish. this is not only affect by over fishing and poisoning but also from suckermouth catfish(local call it "sapu-sapu") this fish has invade our water n eat all local species eggs.. the only fish available is Nile Tilapia n other fish who can escaped from breeder net.. but in SOME remote area u can still find wild catfish, snake head and BARRA, me and my friends still searching for this spot your story about pork bait very funny, u can make all people at the party laugh with those story:lolhuh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diemai Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 @ sinyo I do believe , that the fish are just spooked by the lots of crankbaits ploughing through the water , .........that pond is just too small ! I think , that not many of those fish there would have a great chance to gain negative experience with lures , sooner or later they'd get caught and taken out(never heard of catch-and-release in such commercial ponds) , ....the owner must stock new fish , and these possibly would not know any lures , so the learning effect for the fish should be minor , I guess ? This is also because the pond is THAT small ,..... the fish can't hide away , thus get caught quite fast(by FEW anglers only , that don't spook them) , .......on a bigger pond things might look different in terms of a learning effect , as the fish might get not caught and taken out so fast ? We have quite a few of commercial trout ponds over here in Germany , lure ,-and flyfishing is only allowed in a few bigger ones , most owners only allow bait like trout paste , maggots , larvas , worms , dough and stuff like that . But the trout there are also not that easy to catch , sometimes you'll be blank , sometimes you catch them by the dozen ,..... also they can be choosy on a certain kind of bait , which may vary from day to day . But this behaviour has to do a lot with outside influences like temperature , wind , time of day , etc . and not with the amount of anglers at the bank , .......in my opinion:? ! For the owner of that pond you've mentioned it seems to be of double advantage , if anglers turn up in larger groups , ......he makes more money and same time keeps more fish in the pond:lol:! good luck , diemai:yay: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
