timturr Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 I need help, I have modified a poison tail jig mold to pour spinnerbaits but I am having a problem with my frames being loose inside the head. I know it is still connected to the hook but the frame still moves a little. I haved fluxed my lead and my molds are hot. I need help nailing down the problem. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Tim attachment=4329:IMG_1028.JPG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reeves Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 I need help, I have modified a poison tail jig mold to pour spinnerbaits but I am having a problem with my frames being loose inside the head. I know it is still connected to the hook but the frame still moves a little. I haved fluxed my lead and my molds are hot. I need help nailing down the problem. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Tim attachment=4329:IMG_1028.JPG Good looking spinnerbait. A couple of things will loosen your wireframe in the lead. The most common is removing it from the mold cavity too quickly. The lead needs a little time to cool throughout before removing from the mold. Another violation is in 'how' you remove it from the mold. Always lift the part from the mold by the sprue, not the hook or the wireframe. If you powder paint the bait, when curing in an oven seems to reset the hook and wire and become solid once cooled. Hope this cures your problem and good luck. George Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 I agree 100% with reeves, let the bait in the mold for 10 or 15 seconds after its been cast, then when you remove it, grab the sprue and work it loose like that, if you are having trouble getting it out like that try smoking the mold with a candle, this will coat the cavity in soot and will make getting the bait out a little easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timturr Posted December 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 Thanks guys, I am a little too fast at opening the mold though I do always remove with the sprue. I have not noticed after painting and baking if the head tightens up. I am going to do some tonight and I will check. I spray my molds with Frankford Arsenal Drop out Mold Release and that takes care of sticky molds. It also spray my weed guard pins when pouring jigs. It makes a big difference. Thanks again, Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 Tim, now that we know you use mold release, did you ever think that maybe just a little bit of it may begetting on the wire? I doubt that is the problem you're having but it doesn't hurt to check, just a tiny bit on a wire could cause that problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faster u fool Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 (edited) Hey guys new here..I've been reading all post and you guys throw down some great info. I am getting ready to start making my own poison tail swim jigs and would love to make the mold into a spinnerbait mold as well. I think this one looks amazing and is what I was hoping they would look like. Could you post some pics of how the mold was modified to do make it work. The baits we use out here in the bays and oceans the guys want to chrage you a bucket full of money, as much as 12.99 for a spinner bait. Thanks so much in advance. Chris. Edited May 6, 2012 by faster u fool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdsaw Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 I wonder if it could also be the lead that he is using. I remember sagacious educating me on how soft and hard lead have different shrink properties after they cool but I can't find that post. It was a few years or more ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 (edited) I wonder if it could also be the lead that he is using Most likely. I had the same issue couple times and the problem was hard lead mix ( I usually mix pure lead with hard one). I just simply added more soft lead to the mix to fix it. I checked every head since then to make sure they are 100% OK before painting. "If you powder paint the bait, when curing in an oven seems to reset the hook and wire and become solid once cooled." Not everytime , some of the bad heads were painted and baked before I found out the problem with loose wire. Edited May 7, 2012 by psv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassBull Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 I have noticed that when I close up the wire going thru the hook eye to tight I would get a loose feeling in the wire. Try and not to make that connection tight. In other words leave it a little more open and see if that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glaucus Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 Try bending the "J" end of the spinnerbait frame into an "S" shape. This will anchor the wire and keep it from loosening. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 Glaukus, Glad to see you and thanks a lot for help with H style mold modification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apdriver Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 Hey guys new here..I've been reading all post and you guys throw down some great info. I am getting ready to start making my own poison tail swim jigs and would love to make the mold into a spinnerbait mold as well. I think this one looks amazing and is what I was hoping they would look like. Could you post some pics of how the mold was modified to do make it work. The baits we use out here in the bays and oceans the guys want to chrage you a bucket full of money, as much as 12.99 for a spinner bait. Thanks so much in advance. Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apdriver Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 Hey guys new here..I've been reading all post and you guys throw down some great info. I am getting ready to start making my own poison tail swim jigs and would love to make the mold into a spinnerbait mold as well. I think this one looks amazing and is what I was hoping they would look like. Could you post some pics of how the mold was modified to do make it work. The baits we use out here in the bays and oceans the guys want to chrage you a bucket full of money, as much as 12.99 for a spinner bait. Thanks so much in advance. Chris. Welcome Faster, I am new here too. It's hard to believe guys will pay 13.00 for a spinnerbait. It's no wonder this sight is so successful with prices like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdsaw Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 Try bending the "J" end of the spinnerbait frame into an "S" shape. This will anchor the wire and keep it from loosening. Great tip! Thanks for sharing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
