flatsrat76 Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 (edited) I would like to know if anybody has bought and used this before? Does it cast well? http://www.rotometals.com/product-p/lead_shot_reclaim_clean.htm Flatsrat76 Edited December 21, 2009 by flatsrat76 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatman Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 Reading the description, the only thing that would bother me is not knowing if it was hard or soft lead. Also the fact that they say it may have some other stuff in it would lead to thinking maybe tin also. It might be cheaper to just buy a bar of pig lead which is 99.9% pure and while it's a pain to cut it up at least you know it's pure. Fatman I would like to know if anybody has bought and used this before? Does it cast well? http://www.rotometals.com/product-p/lead_shot_reclaim_clean.htm Flatsrat76 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogajiga Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 (edited) The shot lead I used once from diving weight pouches was hard lead and had a lot of oxide dross waste. $1.29 a lb. for scrap is kinda expensive - used tire shop wheel weights is a more economical source of hard lead. edit: the demand for wheel weights being high in my area, I offered $10 more than the $30 going rate if the shop guys would call me when they had a full bucket. A 5 gal bucket yields about 100 lb. of useable lead which comes out to $.40 a lb. tho it does take some time and proper equipment to process the WW into ingots. Edited December 22, 2009 by hawnjigs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flatsrat76 Posted December 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 Reading the description, the only thing that would bother me is not knowing if it was hard or soft lead. Also the fact that they say it may have some other stuff in it would lead to thinking maybe tin also. It might be cheaper to just buy a bar of pig lead which is 99.9% pure and while it's a pain to cut it up at least you know it's pure. Fatman Fatman I think you are right that the pig would be the best bang for the buck for soft lead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flatsrat76 Posted December 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 The shot lead I used once from diving weight pouches was hard lead and had a lot of oxide dross waste. $1.29 a lb. for scrap is kinda expensive - used tire shop wheel weights is a more economical source of hard lead. edit: the demand for wheel weights being high in my area, I offered $10 more than the $30 going rate if the shop guys would call me when they had a full bucket. A 5 gal bucket yields about 100 lb. of useable lead which comes out to $.40 a lb. tho it does take some time and proper equipment to process the WW into ingots. Hawnjigs I agree that 1.29 lb. for scrap is expensive. I have been doing some research about lead alternatives and seen your post about bismuth and tin. Would you mind if I contacted you via pm to pick your brain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCD Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 I would think that this would be "shot blast" shot from resurfacing concrete floors. If I bought it to cast with, I would melt it down in a secondary pot and flux/clean it real good before putting it in my primary pot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flatsrat76 Posted December 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 I would think that this would be "shot blast" shot from resurfacing concrete floors. If I bought it to cast with, I would melt it down in a secondary pot and flux/clean it real good before putting it in my primary pot! GCD I think your right when you said that it will need to be flux/clean before being used. The description kind of turns me off when it states, Still might have a tiny amount of foreign objects in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogajiga Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 Hawnjigs I agree that 1.29 lb. for scrap is expensive. I have been doing some research about lead alternatives and seen your post about bismuth and tin. Would you mind if I contacted you via pm to pick your brain? I would suggest opening a public forum topic to invite the participation of other members experienced in lead free metals casting. First step for anyone interested tho is to decide if they are willing to pay the prices of lead free metals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatman Posted December 24, 2009 Report Share Posted December 24, 2009 Flat Ebay sometimes has listings from Hallmark Metals Corp 930 Wellington Avenue Cranston, RI 02910 Casting Metal Pewter Alloy with silver 6+ pound bars Well I wanted to know if they had one that was cheaper with no silver in it, and other questions do you offer the 92-8 at a cheaper price as there's no silver in it??? $59.00 Does it come in the same 6+ lb bar??? Yes Also what does 6+ mean?? 6 1/2 lbs. Avg 6.6 lbs per bar In laymans terms how close is this to the weight of pure lead?? Lead 0.4090 lbs.cu.in -- 0.2624 lbs.cu.in (Hey I'm not a metalurist I don't know this stuff) Do you provide the MSDS sheet showing all elements??? Yes This is just one company I checked with and it's about 2/3 of the weight of lead, With a pound of this material I can make approx. 200-250 per lb. (if I'm wrong correct me) of 1/16th oz jigs. That's still alot , although I'd then have to bring up the question, can you powder paint them the same way, as this stuff melts at a lower temp. I've posted about the lead free materials before as Vermont has lead laws (right now it doesn't affect jigs), but states next to me have different laws. Fatman I would suggest opening a public forum topic to invite the participation of other members experienced in lead free metals casting. First step for anyone interested tho is to decide if they are willing to pay the prices of lead free metals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomer Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 I've used reclaimed shot before, but not from this source. It depends on what kind of range the shot came from as to whether it is hard or soft. You can probably count on it having about 5% antimony (hard shot). The foreign objects are small (tiny ) rocks that will float like pool toys. Don't worry about this. IMO price is very high and approaching the current price of new shot, which I've also used. Soft shot is nearly pure lead, and I've used it when I needed pure lead.. If you are interesting in using this, check with local, large shotgun (skeet, trap) ranges, as that is the source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
