Crymdawg Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 I just bought my first bunch of skirt collars and tool from Jann's Netcraft. I'm having difficulty getting the solid color black and white collars onto the tube of the tool. I'm able to get their Chartruese collars on alot easier but the white and black ones eventually rip. So far I've used Mineral oil, cocoa butter and lip balm to lubricate the cone of the tool that looks alike a fly tying base. Any other suggestions ? Cannot afford another tool purchase right now. Don't want to go to any petroleum product for fear that the collars will fall apart. Was even thinking about using "personal lubricant" producs (K-Y jelly ) which we all know is not suppossed to react negatively with rubber products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallmouthaholic Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 I just bought my first bunch of skirt collars and tool from Jann's Netcraft. I'm having difficulty getting the solid color black and white collars onto the tube of the tool. I'm able to get their Chartruese collars on alot easier but the white and black ones eventually rip. So far I've used Mineral oil, cocoa butter and lip balm to lubricate the cone of the tool that looks alike a fly tying base. Any other suggestions ? Cannot afford another tool purchase right now. Don't want to go to any petroleum product for fear that the collars will fall apart. Was even thinking about using "personal lubricant" producs (K-Y jelly ) which we all know is not suppossed to react negatively with rubber products. K-Y jelly-LMAO! You could try soaking them in Amour-all-then remove and let air dry. You've got to push down equally and quickly below the cone bottom taper w/both thumb fingernails - don't stop half-way down or you'll need to pay the air traffic controllers O.T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ace203rm Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 Try Blakemore Line and Reel magic. I have been using it for years without any problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EironBreaker Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 (edited) I've tried those type of skirt tubes, not my favorite and time consuming. If you want a cheap one of maybe a smaller diameter, go to the sewing dept of Wal Mart and buy a knitting needle. Cut the end off of it or knock the cap off and there you so. Same as the higher priced tool that is made for this. You can get different sizes. I prefer a small nosed hemostat pliers. I slip one collar onto the end, open it up and slip the skirt in to the desired distance. Mine are the curved style. You have to lay the skirt layers together, fold the skirt end in half and slide it in to the middle. Easy, faster and no need to wrestle with the collars on the tube. Edited January 7, 2010 by EironBreaker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crymdawg Posted January 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 Hey guys & gals, what do you expect from a pre-hospital medical person. If you cannot get something to fit use K-Y Jelly especially with rubber components. All kidding aside; at the suggestion of another lure builder friend I tried liquid soap applied on a paper towel then put on the cone. For the first time I got a rubber collar all the way down the cone but the damn collar kept sliding into the seperation between the cone and the hollow tube. Just don't like the Jann's device. Was thinking about buying the Naked Bait Collar Expander, but the hemostat idea also seems interesting to try. I sure got enough of them around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21xdc Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 I use a touch of hair conditioner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcase1060 Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 New guy here, but I have tried my hand at making my own jigs (very addictive), and had the same issue. I made my own collar tool out of knitting needles, and use Chompers G scent (garlic), as a lubricant. I roll the tool and collar on a plate with a little bit of the scent, and they slide great, added plus is that they have a scent to them, and it is designed for fishing. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crymdawg Posted January 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 I've tried those type of skirt tubes, not my favorite and time consuming. If you want a cheap one of maybe a smaller diameter, go to the sewing dept of Wal Mart and buy a knitting needle. Cut the end off of it or knock the cap off and there you so. Same as the higher priced tool that is made for this. You can get different sizes. I prefer a small nosed hemostat pliers. I slip one collar onto the end, open it up and slip the skirt in to the desired distance. Mine are the curved style. You have to lay the skirt layers together, fold the skirt end in half and slide it in to the middle. Easy, faster and no need to wrestle with the collars on the tube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crymdawg Posted January 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 I've tried those type of skirt tubes, not my favorite and time consuming. If you want a cheap one of maybe a smaller diameter, go to the sewing dept of Wal Mart and buy a knitting needle. Cut the end off of it or knock the cap off and there you so. Same as the higher priced tool that is made for this. You can get different sizes. I prefer a small nosed hemostat pliers. I slip one collar onto the end, open it up and slip the skirt in to the desired distance. Mine are the curved style. You have to lay the skirt layers together, fold the skirt end in half and slide it in to the middle. Easy, faster and no need to wrestle with the collars on the tube. I'm just about to leave and do some errands, which include stopping at a Wal-Mart for Knotting needles. Do you have any idea what size needle you got. I know there are number or letter sizes that coorespond to a diameter . I was planning on just taking some collars and finished shirts for explaination to the staff at what ever store I stop at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...