irishbass Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Tried dipping tubes this morning for the first time. Used a quarter inch steel rod and that seemed to work pretty well. However. I'm having trouble building up enough wall thickness. I'm shooting for a flipping-type tube (Mizmo etc:). I was using a medium plastic heated to the same consistency I use for pouring open molds. I dipped each tube several times and still could not get the thick wall I'm looking for... is my plastic too soft? too hot? Thanks in advance for any help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zbass Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 You might try to cool your plastic off a bit. Most guys use a hard compound for the tubes. That will help also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishbass Posted January 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Thanks, Z. I'll try cooler plastic on my next attempt. I was hoping the medium was going to work. I don't have any hardener on hand. I was experimenting without salt. Maybe when I add that, it will help with the consisteny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimcline Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 Irish, you might also try letting your first dips cool and then go back and dip after they've cooled for a few minutes. This will really build up a heavy tube. Also, Bojon once told me that he sometimes actually keeps his rods cold so as to build up more plastic on the initial dip. If he says it , I believe it. And definitely get some harder plastic. JIM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bojon Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 First,thank you Jim for the nice compliment. Like Jim said. Make the job easy by using the plastic formulated for tubes.Messing around with softer plastic,and hardner is not recommemded,unless you want to make a soft walled tube.I have made a lot of these softer tubes,but only for a special need.The walls collapse. I'm sorry I didn't cover the cooling down of the tubes between dips in my CD.A lot of guys want a heavy walled tube.I'm just the opposite,and I let that one get by. PM me and leave your questions,and email address,and I will get back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabskie Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 Tried dipping tubes this morning for the first time. Used a quarter inch steel rod and that seemed to work pretty well. However. I'm having trouble building up enough wall thickness. I'm shooting for a flipping-type tube (Mizmo etc:). I was using a medium plastic heated to the same consistency I use for pouring open molds. I dipped each tube several times and still could not get the thick wall I'm looking for... is my plastic too soft? too hot? Thanks in advance for any help! I learned to make tubes from bojon,,,trust his advice,,,the man know his stuff when it comes to tubes,,,I use lurecraft #500 plastic and I can pretty much make them as thick as I want,,,but a double dip is just right for my purpose,,,makes a good flippin tube. dabskie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishbass Posted January 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Thanks for all the replies, guys. Looks like I'll have to get some more plastic and then incorporate your suggestions. Bojon, if it's not too much of a bother, I think I'll take you up on your offer. I'm trying to figure out how to horizontal-dip using a microwave. A pyrex dish maybe? I bought some aluminum rod and bent it at a 90 degrees. Seems like that should work. I don't know about temp control with the microwave method, though. Seems like there'd be an awful lot of reheating involved. Usually when I pour, I just work with 2-4 oz. batches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSC Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Thanks for all the replies, guys. Looks like I'll have to get some more plastic and then incorporate your suggestions. Bojon, if it's not too much of a bother, I think I'll take you up on your offer. I'm trying to figure out how to horizontal-dip using a microwave. A pyrex dish maybe? I bought some aluminum rod and bent it at a 90 degrees. Seems like that should work. I don't know about temp control with the microwave method, though. Seems like there'd be an awful lot of reheating involved. Usually when I pour, I just work with 2-4 oz. batches. Sounds like You really need to get Bojon's CD Answers these basic questions ... shows you how to do it ... can't beat it JSC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishbass Posted January 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Sounds like a recurring theme. I better get the cd. The injected molds look like pretty slick, but I wanted to see how dipping went first. I just need a couple hundred a year for personal use, so if I could turn out some decent tubes on the cheap, that would be great. Then I could use the money I save to buy another LT (70MHXF) or Curado or something else I really don't need. Thanks for the advice, everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred27 Posted July 7, 2010 Report Share Posted July 7, 2010 where can this dvd be purchased? thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSC Posted July 7, 2010 Report Share Posted July 7, 2010 where can this dvd be purchased? thank you! Pull a "Search" for "Bojon" .... send him a PM and he will get with you ... this is about the best info U can get on "Dipping" Tubes. JSC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...