used rubbers Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 Just wondering if anyone has cracked the Yamamoto Senko recipe? I have found that they have the most wiggle and movement of any other stick bait and would like to copy them. I am thinking it has to do with a lot of salt and a soft plastic but stiff enough to react to the bend to snap back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabskie Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 Just wondering if anyone has cracked the Yamamoto Senko recipe? I have found that they have the most wiggle and movement of any other stick bait and would like to copy them. I am thinking it has to do with a lot of salt and a soft plastic but stiff enough to react to the bend to snap back. I'm not an expert at this by anymeans compared to some of the guys on here,,,I've only been at it for 2 yrs now,,,but using Yammy's senko's is what got me started making my own,,,I got tired of making him rich,,,I found out that just using the standard stick receipe works fine,,,you might want to play around with the amount of softner,,but I catch just as many bass with mine that I did with his,,,maybe more.,,,I'm not saying you should not strive for perfection but,,if it's not broke don't fix it. I also found out trying to imitate his colors,,that exactness doesn't matter either,,,I get my colors as close as I can,,and still catch just as many fish. dabskie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
used rubbers Posted January 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 what would you call the standard stick recipe? I am wondering what other people are using for plastics and how much salt or softeners are added. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gone2long Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 what would you call the standard stick recipe? I am wondering what other people are using for plastics and how much salt or softeners are added. Thanks. Here this was from Del's site: In a 2 cup pyrex measuring cup mix: 1 cup of Calhoun Plastic. 1/4 cup Calhoun Softener Add colors (before heat or after) put in the microwave till the plastic is ready to pour (follow the microwave instructions) then take a teaspoon and slowly stir while adding in 1/2 cup of salt (salt works best when its gound in a blender to a light powder). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabskie Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 what would you call the standard stick recipe? I am wondering what other people are using for plastics and how much salt or softeners are added. Thanks. Basic rule is 1 cup Calhoun 1207 1/2 cup salt ground fine in a coffee grinder 1/4 cup softener color and flake I usually cut it in half when I pour,,,good idea if your just getting started,,,,,4oz plastic,,,,1/4 cup salt and 1oz softner,, I mix the plastic and softener and and my colors,,,you can add your colors before heating or after,,,I add my salt after heating I thinks it dissolves better,,just remember salt is white and will change the color you are looking for,,,heat in microwave 1 min and then 30 sec intervals,(thats just my routine),,,others do it different.,,so as not to burn,,,,till I get the consistity I want,,,,it will go from liquid to gel and back to liquid,,,around 300 degrees,,,after a while you can tell just by looking at it when its ready,,,don't add your glitter till your ready to pour. Just reheat as you need to keep it pourable,,,,, If your just starting out I would suggest you do as I did,,,I spent weeks going over all the forums,,,questions and answers,,,,on pouring soft plastics,,,learning everything I could before starting out on my own, because you will incounter problems along the way,,,and that will help you correct them. ,,,one thing to remember is to mix,,,mix,,,mix,,,while cooking and pouring,,,and them mix again,,,,everything you need to know is in the forums,,,just seek and you will find,,,,if you can't find,,,ask. Hope this helps . dabskie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anakedman Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Whats the recipe if I am using lure craft 502. Or does it cover this in the recipe book? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveh Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 Whats the recipe if I am using lure craft 502. Or does it cover this in the recipe book? i use 502 with that recipe. its fine. i also use calhoun softener with the 602 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baileybassman Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 Gary Yamamoto uses salt and sand in his senkos i heard this somewhere and got to wandering if it was true so i cut on up and looked at it under a microscope its definatly not just salt from what i seen it was 3 parts salt to one part sand im not sure if that the exact recipe or not but its pretty close Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COBRA Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 its silica, you can get it where they sell sand blasting supplies usually. its dense, a filler, cheaper than salt while adding weight. just a filler basicly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baileybassman Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 sorry it looked like plain sand under the mircoscope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryanmc Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 sorry it looked like plain sand under the mircoscope It basically is. They sell it as silica sand. Only problem with using it is it settles really fast in the plastic. That's why yamamoto uses water cooled injection molds. They cool the plastic before the sand can settle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
used rubbers Posted January 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 This thread is getting very informative, the more info and descriptions you guys can offer is great, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
