Backplay In Handle

[letsgofishingtoday]

Hi!

I’m a happy fisherman from Sweden and I got a question for your guys in the US. Now I don't know if this is the right forum for this kind of question but as I'm a member here due to my interest in making baits, I thought I might give it a try anyway.

Well, I bought a shimano stradic FI 3000 reel on the bay and I have fished the reel a couple times now.

It is a nice reel in many ways but one thing is getting to me and I just can’t let it go. The reel have a small backplay at handle. I just can’t tell if it’s the gears/ Super Stopper bearing, joint in the long screw in handle or something else.

Maybe this small amount of back play is an acceptable tolerance for a reel in the price range like the stradics?

I have a couple of daiwa certate and okuma VS reels by comparison and there is no such a back play on those reels.

So before it's even worth getting inside the reel, is there anybody that have a stradic FI and experience similar back play or can set me straight?

Anders

[clamboni]

That reel properly working will have SLIGHT back play. I'm talking 1-2 mm.....if you're getting more than that something's up with your anti reverse....most likely either over lubed or dirty. The shimano anti reverse is different than other spinning reels. it's a gray circle with the rollers in there. It can be taken apart but can be difficult to get back together........just take your time and don't try to do more than one thing at a time....and pay attention to how those little springs are in there. When you get it hack together, I lightly oil the little oring that's in there and put a couple drops of oil on the bushing that fits inside.

[letsgofishingtoday]

That reel properly working will have SLIGHT back play. I'm talking 1-2 mm.....if you're getting more than that something's up with your anti reverse....most likely either over lubed or dirty. The shimano anti reverse is different than other spinning reels. it's a gray circle with the rollers in there. It can be taken apart but can be difficult to get back together........just take your time and don't try to do more than one thing at a time....and pay attention to how those little springs are in there. When you get it hack together, I lightly oil the little oring that's in there and put a couple drops of oil on the bushing that fits inside.

Tanks for the great info. The backplay on the reel is about the 1-3 mm as you stated. I think that's pretty sad for a reel in 200 dollar range. It seems like shimano and spinning reels ain't my cup of T.

Anyway, one more time tanks for the information.

Edited February 22, 2010 by letsgofishingtoday

[clamboni]

Tanks for the great info. The backplay on the reel is about the 1-3 mm as you stated. I think that's pretty sad for a reel in 200 dollar range. It seems like shimano and spinning reels ain't my cup of T.

Anyway, one more time tanks for the information.

The back play is due to the design of the anti reverse mechanism. The bushing in there needs to turn backward in order to get the rollers to bite into it. That's just the way the Shimano ones are. Yes, there's a little more play in there but it's a lot more reliable than other brands because of that design. I've never had my shimano spinning reels have a failure with the anti reverse. I've had all other brands fail and all of my shimano's are older than all my other reels.

[letsgofishingtoday]

The back play is due to the design of the anti reverse mechanism. The bushing in there needs to turn backward in order to get the rollers to bite into it. That's just the way the Shimano ones are. Yes, there's a little more play in there but it's a lot more reliable than other brands because of that design. I've never had my shimano spinning reels have a failure with the anti reverse. I've had all other brands fail and all of my shimano's are older than all my other reels.

OK!

So it's spinning with some backplay for a long time if you go for shimano and solid spinning but under a shorter amount of time for a lot of the other brands if I get you right.

I have had daiwa certate reels sins years back now and never experience any trouble mechanically at all. But of course those reels are twice the value compared to the stradics and I guess you get what you paying for in the end.

But don't get me wrong, I think the stradic is a nice reel overall it's just that I been spoiled that tight smoothness to long and have trouble to adapt to another feel of spinning.

If I give it some time maybe the stradic is my first pick when going fishing. Who knows!

Tanks for your input and info!

Anders

[zaugrishak5150]

Abu Garcia! Fortehwin!

[letsgofishingtoday]

Abu Garcia! Fortehwin!

Yeah, sure!

[clamboni]

Maybe I shouldn't have said fail........My Diawa's and Abu's are more sensitive to being dirty, and to temperature. When they get dirty or cold you actually get a little slippage where you go to set the hook on a fish and the handle turns backwards a little........that's bad. It's not that the anti-reverse goes bad, but it gets dirty or the oil changes due to temperature change........I just haven't had that problem with the shimano.......I do agree that the anti reverse hooks up a little quicker in the other reels........But it's not enough to affect my fishing, you just notice it when you try to reel backwards. For me the stradics are smoother than any other reel I've used, even more expensive shimano's. You can actually turn the handle on a stradic without touching it by just turning the reel's body. That little bit of play never lost a fish for me.

The other reels I've had problems with were always when it was cold out. I fish in below freezing temps every winter......That's when I had failures. To be honest, I don't think it was really the reel itself, but the lube I'd used when cleaning the reels changing properties when it got very cold out. I've since changed to using a very light application of a light oil and haven't had problems since.......But the shimanos have never given me problems no matter what lube or what temperature.