Plastic Injectors & Pouring Pots

[TackleResource]

Hello Everyone,

I am looking for a pouring pot and an Injection Machine.

Preferably an Injection Maching that holds arround 3-5 gallons.

Preferably a Pouring Pot that holds arround 3-5 gallons.

A plus would be a machine that does both, lol.

I built my own presto pot but thats not good enough. I just Calhoun Plastic and I want something that I can pour the plastic into, the colorants, and the salt. The machine does the stirring and the heating.

With my presto pot I have to heat the plastic in the Microwave or wait 2 hrs for the Presto to heat it up, if it ever gets hot enough.

Please give me links to companies that sell machines like I have listed. I had a link to a nice pouring pot that was industrial type but I lost the information too it.

I'm looking to buy one very soon (tax returns baby, lol).

[Frank]

There was one that just sold on ebay for under $700. Not many people knew much about the company but it was made for plastic. Wenesco in the name.

Edited February 27, 2010 by Frank

[TackleResource]

For pouring I am looking at the Sta-Warm pots. Anyone have any experience with these??

Will I need to buy a stirring system??

Looking to get past my microwave system.

[TackleResource]

There was one that just sold on ebay for under $700. Not many people knew much about the company but it was made for plastic. Wenesco in the name.

I found the Wenesco website. It doesn't have prices but I e-mailed them. Found the link from the ebay listing. The listing said they normally retail for arround $4000. WOA....this may be further down the road if thats the case, lol.

[gone2long]

Lurecraft sells one but I never heard a report on it:

http://www.lurecraft.com/

[JSC]

"With my presto pot I have to heat the plastic in the Microwave or wait 2 hrs for the Presto to heat it up, if it ever gets hot enough."

I have used Presto Pots for some time now and have not had a problem with them not heating up .... Are you using a "Stirriing Motor"? ... Having to cook in Micro Wave and then pour into pot ???

Sta Warm has been in the business for many years and make some good products but you are going to have to come off your wallet ... the old saying you get what you pay for applies here as well.

JSC

[jimcline]

"With my presto pot I have to heat the plastic in the Microwave or wait 2 hrs for the Presto to heat it up, if it ever gets hot enough."

I have used Presto Pots for some time now and have not had a problem with them not heating up .... Are you using a "Stirriing Motor"? ... Having to cook in Micro Wave and then pour into pot ???

Sta Warm has been in the business for many years and make some good products but you are going to have to come off your wallet ... the old saying you get what you pay for applies here as well.

JSC

My thoughts exactly. If it's taking him 2 hours to heat plastic in a presto pot, he's doing something wrong. I believe it takes me about 15 minutes tops with mixing and all to start pouring. I don't know what he's injecting and how much but maybe hand injection is the way to go.

[mbroggi1]

I hear the new smaller pots have a bit less heat but all the Presto's I've dealt with heat up and are ready to pour within 10 minutes. Several quarts add a few minutes. Pouring 3-5 galloins in one batch is alot of plastic.

Your last name happen to end with moto?

[carolinamike]

Clearwater, you can build your own injector/pouring pot. With today's prices, it's probably going to run you a little over $1000.00. It's been about 8 years since I built mine and I know some of the prices have gone up, but the heat controls have improved considerably. As far as the LC pot goes, I also made the mistake of purchasing one of those. And if it's like it used to be LC just sells them, they don't make them. Kim and the folks at LC are fine people. The bottom of the pot is fine, I still use mine. It's the lid that I have a problem with. Let's just say it's not a safe product and it's very cheaply made considering the price. If you check back through the threads, there's a lot of bad reports on these. But if done correctly, they're perfectly safe, and if you add a heated valve, then you can gravity pour with no pressure. I used to sit down with 40 molds and 2 gallons of plastic, makes for a long day man. As far as the presto pots go, there is a whole lot of good things said about these. When I started all we had was a fry daddy and a fry baby. They did ok for dipping tubes, they just never performed well as a pouring pot. The injector that's $4000 and just sold on Ebay for around $700, there's no way I would consider purchasing this thing until I see what was in the box. Most likely you're going to find a pressure pot and a heat band. The reason they're not showing you the inside of the box is because if you see it, you will be able to build it. There are rumors out of smaller injection machines coming out in the future, but before I spent $4000 on something in a box, I'd contact Ray at Zorn Molds and find out what the cost of a sample shooter would be. Like I say if you dig back through the TU archives, you ought to be able to find a lot of information.

[wildtail97]

We have been working with a holt melt machine, it works great for pouring or injecting, without changing anything but air pressure. You can get into this for about $2,000. Maybe cheaper, depends where you look. If your interested shoot me an email. jkmaland@gmail.com

[jimcline]

We have been working with a holt melt machine, it works great for pouring or injecting, without changing anything but air pressure. You can get into this for about $2,000. Maybe cheaper, depends where you look. If your interested shoot me an email. jkmaland@gmail.com

I believe that Bear is coming out with an injection machine very soon. The single color version is supposed to be about 1200.00 and the 2 color version is supposed to run about 1500.00. If the quality is as good as the molds that Britt makes for him it should be a fine machine.

[TackleResource]

I was stirring with a spoon when I started this. I never purchased a stirring system because the pot didn't seem to work as planned.

I also just went and bought a presto from Wal-Mart and altered it.

Its quite possible I did it all wrong. I will definately be checking out the Holt machine. I will send you an e-mail later on jimcline. Have to get to work right now.

thanks for all the responses.

Korey

[Delw]

Pressure pots have been around for years, they are very easy to make and pretty cheap to make, you can make them for as little as 400 bucks and sky is the limit. Fishgetter lures( thinks tahts his name used to make and sell them for 2500-7500. there was guys on this forum and the one before this one that made quite a few of them.

there is only ONE pot worth a crap for pressure pots and thats a all american pressure pot. they are the only pressure cookers left that are make with NO plastic parts and the alum they use is thick not paper thin, they have a aluminum ocking lid as well. DONT make one out of a presto pot that is very dangerous and foolish as the presto DONT have a locking metal lid. yeah I know guys that have tried.

a all american pressure cooker has everything you need, all you have to do is add 2-3 bungs for air in and air out and one for a mixer if you wish and your pretty much done, it also comes with a pressure relief valve which is very very important.

Heating bands can be bought almost anywere anymore for next to nothing all the way to hundreds of dollars. remmeber one thing you get what you pay for.

the most important thing for a pressure pot, wether its hand made or store bought is the air going into it. most guys have shop compressors they have 80-120lbs PSI and a standard pressure regulator on the side made from china, YOU MUST buy a quality pressure regulator with a small scale, meaning it doesnt go from 0-200 or 300 on the dial it goes from 0-20 MAX, the best I found was a devilvus(sp) paint pressure regulater for a paint gun, I think they run about 20 bucks.

they will regulate air pressure per 1/4 lb very easly. have that feed of a seperate line from you compressor going to the pot. never USE more than 7 LBS try to keep it around 3-4 llbs. a pressure pot is only rated at 7lbs max. if I remember correctly, the all american has 2-3 relief valves with it. I have a few NIB at the shop that we put together for some guys years ago, these were for myself.

for the mixer use a double lipped seal that can be bought at any napa store or mc master carr, they are pretty cheap just a few dollars each. a O-ring works as well,

I have a few different set ups I might post if i remember ie part numbers and how toos and were to get the stuff. to make them perfect you need to get 4 items aluminum welded, you dont have to but it makes it better. most of the pressure pots if not all can be made in your garage with simple hand tools and some back yard ingenuity.

Delw

[TackleResource]

Del I'm sure you saw this coming but I'm wandering if you have any plans for such a build.

Very interested in making one.

[Delw]

Del I'm sure you saw this coming but I'm wandering if you have any plans for such a build.

Very interested in making one.

Not injection pots,, even if you bought my libility insurance way too many things can go wrong when stuff is automatic. people get lazy, not page attention and things get taking for granted way to easy.

I leave that to Zorn molds.

hope this sounds right

Building something for yourself is completely different as the people who build them thereselves have some mechaincal knowlege and understanding on how things work.

Delw

[TackleResource]

I have a plan!!! You make an alternate account on here, dont tell anyone its you.

Then give us your plans, lol.

JK

Totally understood.