Digestible And Biodegradeble Plastics.

[VermontPhisher]

I live in Vermont where someday all plastic baits will have to be digestible and biodegradeble. The use of lead tackle is already outlawed and oil based coatings are next. This puts me in a bad situation because I want to make soft plastic lures . Is there such a product on the market for hobbyist lure makers. If so has anybody tried it yet and is a decent product. Thanks so much.

[BBK]

LC has some 'green' plastic. dont know how 'green' it is.

"This new plastic is more environmentally friendly. It is Phthalate free. This is the chemical outlawed in kids toys, baby bottles and many other items due to studies showing it causes medical issues in children. It still has all the great characteristics as our original plasatic. IMPROVED NON STICKY FORMULA. HAS ALSO BEEN TESTED AND CERTIFIED TO BE PHTHALATE FREE!!! Our "green" plastic is PATENT PENDING. We feel this formulation is not only more environmentally friendly but have been told it catches more fish. We are continuing to test and will give updates as we get results."

[VermontPhisher]

LC has some 'green' plastic. dont know how 'green' it is.

"This new plastic is more environmentally friendly. It is Phthalate free. This is the chemical outlawed in kids toys, baby bottles and many other items due to studies showing it causes medical issues in children. It still has all the great characteristics as our original plasatic. IMPROVED NON STICKY FORMULA. HAS ALSO BEEN TESTED AND CERTIFIED TO BE PHTHALATE FREE!!! Our "green" plastic is PATENT PENDING. We feel this formulation is not only more environmentally friendly but have been told it catches more fish. We are continuing to test and will give updates as we get results."

Thanks for the quick response . I will check it out and give it a try.

[Pappy Jones]

Thanks for the quick response . I will check it out and give it a try.

I have been using it for all most a year. It pours great, less smoke and smell. I am happy with it and feel it is the way to go for all plastic pourers. Pappy Jones

[SweetWaterBaits]

I would stick with normal plastic. Don't really want to pour baits with 'obama plastic.'

[VermontPhisher]

I would stick with normal plastic. Don't really want to pour baits with 'obama plastic.'

Its not Obama plastic. There are studies in this state that prove plastics are eaten by trout in the winter months when food is scarce. These plastics stay in the fish forever and cause problems that should concern any fisherman. Side effects include death, reproductive harm, and stunting of growth.

It would be a shame if the big one you wanted to catch this year was dead. Right?

[96dak]

LC green plastic isn't digestible or biodegradable its just Phthalate free. just so you know. as far as i know there isnt a biodegradable plastic available for us.

[Blurp]

I would stick with normal plastic. Don't really want to pour baits with 'obama plastic.'

It's called conservation, not politics. If I can do something to protect our fisheries I'll do it. Don't cut off your nose to spite your face.

[smallmouthaholic]

LC green plastic isn't digestible or biodegradable its just Phthalate free. just so you know. as far as i know there isnt a biodegradable plastic available for us.

You're putting Phthalates back into your "green soft-baits" when you add softener and/or hardener.

[96dak]

You're putting Phthalates back into your "green soft-baits" when you add softener and/or hardener.

LOL

[SweetWaterBaits]

Everything is politics now days. It's amazing how many things we suddenly need to 'change', when there was nothing really wrong with them in the first place. By the way, read this while holding your breath, the 'scientists' now say carbon dioxide is a poison and harms the ozone!

Edited March 15, 2010 by SweetWaterBaits

[VermontPhisher]

Everything is politics now days. It's amazing how many things we suddenly need to 'change', when there was nothing really wrong with them in the first place. By the way, read this while holding your breath, the 'scientists' now say carbon dioxide is a poison and harms the ozone!

I agree that it is hard to avoid politics these days ,but just think about the sport you love. I didn't really pay attention to the harm common products do until I read an article in In- Fisherman magazine. Aug/ Sept 2009 page 11 titled "Ingestion of soft plastics by Trout" by Rob Neumann. Please do not be offended and lets not start a slugging match. It is our job to leave the fisheries the way we found them and to find ways to make them better. The entire industry needs to change and it won't happen if we keep supporting bad practices like importing baits and materials from China or elsewhere. TRUCE!

[carolinamike]

If you look around you notice no one is claiming 100% green plastic. Adding flake alone kills this part of it. A lot of the plastics advertised as green plastics still have their disadvantages to the environment. It's just someone feels one is better than the other. As far as the fish themselves go, I could understand the concern about trout. They're a more delicate species of fish than a largemouth. What gets me is the politicians are trying to use one study done on one type of fish. For those bass fisherman out there how many of you can honestly say they saw an adverse effect that they were absolutely sure was caused by a plastic worm. Over the years I've seen fishing line with sinkers on it, rusty hooks, plastic worms and crawfish claws hanging out of the rear end of a largemouth. Almost all of these fish were fat, healthy fish. And if the lead, the monofilament line and the fish hook made it through, then I don't understand the big deal. NC's biggest reservoir is Lake Norman. I've fished it since I was 7 or 8. I'm now 48 and over the years I'm sure there's been a ton of plastic baits lost in the lake. The lake was once known as the Dead Sea. Now it's at the top of it's game. It's even produced a state record spotted bass. All this came by proper water management and managing the right forage for the fish. It never had anything to do with plastics at all. I'm the last person that would like to see a fish harmed, but I sure would like to see the proof in how these studies were done. And if it's only affecting one species of fish, then of course ban using plastics for that particular species, which by the way, NC has done for scented plastics when trout fishing.

[VermontPhisher]

I found 100% food based baits. I am going to give them a try if they work then I am going to try to figure out how to make my own . I cook everyday ,how hard could it be. Check out these baits and others like it m ... .www.fslures.com . Really interesting stuff.

[SweetWaterBaits]

If you look around you notice no one is claiming 100% green plastic. Adding flake alone kills this part of it. A lot of the plastics advertised as green plastics still have their disadvantages to the environment. It's just someone feels one is better than the other. As far as the fish themselves go, I could understand the concern about trout. They're a more delicate species of fish than a largemouth. What gets me is the politicians are trying to use one study done on one type of fish. For those bass fisherman out there how many of you can honestly say they saw an adverse effect that they were absolutely sure was caused by a plastic worm. Over the years I've seen fishing line with sinkers on it, rusty hooks, plastic worms and crawfish claws hanging out of the rear end of a largemouth. Almost all of these fish were fat, healthy fish. And if the lead, the monofilament line and the fish hook made it through, then I don't understand the big deal. NC's biggest reservoir is Lake Norman. I've fished it since I was 7 or 8. I'm now 48 and over the years I'm sure there's been a ton of plastic baits lost in the lake. The lake was once known as the Dead Sea. Now it's at the top of it's game. It's even produced a state record spotted bass. All this came by proper water management and managing the right forage for the fish. It never had anything to do with plastics at all. I'm the last person that would like to see a fish harmed, but I sure would like to see the proof in how these studies were done. And if it's only affecting one species of fish, then of course ban using plastics for that particular species, which by the way, NC has done for scented plastics when trout fishing.

You nailed it. In no way will I ever be convinced. I am no trout fisherman by any means.. We don't even have trout. But as far as bass goes, I find it EXTREMELY hard to believe any of this can affect one. Sorry to bring politics into this, but this stuff just burns me up. All of these 'green' schemes are just ways to make more money. The sport does not need to change. Because of management practices, like Carolina mentioned, fish numbers are through the roof. Lakes around here have never been better.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

[lowbudget fishing]

You nailed it. In no way will I ever be convinced. I am no trout fisherman by any means.. We don't even have trout. But as far as bass goes, I find it EXTREMELY hard to believe any of this can affect one. Sorry to bring politics into this, but this stuff just burns me up. All of these 'green' schemes are just ways to make more money. The sport does not need to change. Because of management practices, like Carolina mentioned, fish numbers are through the roof. Lakes around here have never been better.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

i think the only fish we need to worry about killing is the asian carp in the rivers before they hurt fishermen or boaters like you and me.

[rr316]

I agree that it is hard to avoid politics these days ,but just think about the sport you love. I didn't really pay attention to the harm common products do until I read an article in In- Fisherman magazine. Aug/ Sept 2009 page 11 titled "Ingestion of soft plastics by Trout" by Rob Neumann. Please do not be offended and lets not start a slugging match. It is our job to leave the fisheries the way we found them and to find ways to make them better. The entire industry needs to change and it won't happen if we keep supporting bad practices like importing baits and materials from China or elsewhere. TRUCE!

First of all those studies are being payed for by Food Source Lures, Berkely and others that stand to make big bucks when the plastics industry gets turned on its head by a do-gooder gov't If you actually read the study you are talking about, they took an inordinate amount of plastics and dumped them in the tank full of trout and didn't have a different food source in there..... of course the fish ate the frigging plastics, they didn't have anything else to eat, they ate so many that there stomachs became blocked..... wtf did they expect was going to happen.... I find the whole thing kinda funny since FSL and Berekly are big advertisers on Infisherman... I smell a rat

[mainbutter]

Everything is politics now days. It's amazing how many things we suddenly need to 'change', when there was nothing really wrong with them in the first place. By the way, read this while holding your breath, the 'scientists' now say carbon dioxide is a poison and harms the ozone!

Carbon dioxide is a poison. I use it to euthanize feeder animals for my reptiles, it's amazing how fast it works.

[DeltaMan]

Carbon dioxide is a poison. I use it to euthanize feeder animals for my reptiles, it's amazing how fast it works.

did i just here a whip crack?

btw that allgey killing spray actually does kill fish so i think we need an overhall of all researches done on any one of these so called manegment things or green plastic they are totally rigged!

Edited March 22, 2010 by DeltaMan

[VermontPhisher]

did i just here a whip crack?

btw that allgey killing spray actually does kill fish so i think we need an overhall of all researches done on any one of these so called manegment things or green plastic they are totally rigged!

This topic sure did take a strange turn. What was my question again? Ha Ha I have been doing some more searching outside this site and getting ideas. What a fun topic.