circuit sniffer Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Ok I'm new here and to custom tackel so thanks for the help and such a nice forum/site so with that said I was wondering if anyone has or what the thoughts on using a standard jig head to make a spinner jig by bending wire and fusing it to the jig head and yes I now I can buy pre made heads and I could buy the tools to pour my own but just wondering if this would be a option sorry my spelling and grammer are bad hope to hear some others thoughts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBK Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 That would work if you can get the wire to stick to the head. Not sure how that would be possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
circuit sniffer Posted March 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 I was thinking braseing weld/tacking or soldering it to the eye loop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooney Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 I was thinking braseing weld/tacking or soldering it to the eye loop You can use a large beetle spin arm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clamboni Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Ok I'm new here and to custom tackel so thanks for the help and such a nice forum/site so with that said I was wondering if anyone has or what the thoughts on using a standard jig head to make a spinner jig by bending wire and fusing it to the jig head and yes I now I can buy pre made heads and I could buy the tools to pour my own but just wondering if this would be a option sorry my spelling and grammer are bad hope to hear some others thoughts No, you could get a spinnerbait mold, or modify a jig mold so it'll accept a wire. The wire has to go through the hook eye or there's no way it'll be strong enough. I don't think you can braze lead really. Melts at too low a temp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
circuit sniffer Posted April 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 (edited) Yes I would say that I would have to put the wire through the eye loop then bend it closed. To make it solid I was thinking solder or brazing it (just the loops) together. am I correct in that the loop/eye in a standerd jig head is indead the hook eye yes I know this is not the best or strongest method but would it be a plosiable alternative to buy premade heads and/or pouring my own again thanks for all the help and this is just all informatinal I have premade heads and a kit on the way I only asked because my local shop only stocks standerd jig heads no spinner or buzz heads so that got me thinking Edited April 1, 2010 by circuit sniffer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirkfan Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Yes I would say that I would have to put the wire through the eye loop then bend it closed. To make it solid I was thinking solder or brazing it (just the loops) together. am I correct in that the loop/eye in a standerd jig head is indead the hook eye yes I know this is not the best or strongest method but would it be a plosiable alternative to buy premade heads and/or pouring my own again thanks for all the help and this is just all informatinal I have premade heads and a kit on the way I only asked because my local shop only stocks standerd jig heads no spinner or buzz heads so that got me thinking Why not just a jig spinner arm. You can buy them from lots of places and also easy to make. While they just snap to the jig head instead of solidly fuzed, I'm not sure that's all that important Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clamboni Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Why not just a jig spinner arm. You can buy them from lots of places and also easy to make. While they just snap to the jig head instead of solidly fuzed, I'm not sure that's all that important You could try it.....Yes, the line tie on a jighead is part of the actual hook. I just don't think brazing it would be strong enough to hold up past the first hookset. But......really the only way to know for sure is to try it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
circuit sniffer Posted April 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 well i think i might try it and some of the other ideas that have been covered. Thanks again and i will update with any results i have good and bad, more ideas are welcome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSC Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Actualy if you "wire" a spinner harness to a jig head you get a spinner bait with a little extra action ... really good with a curly tail grub. JSC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
circuit sniffer Posted April 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 i think this is what cooney and jsc are talking about am i correct Beetle Spin The Johnson Tackle Company introduce the clip-on jig/spinner over twenty years ago for people who like using small jighead and soft plastic body combinations. Typically used for panfish, other sport species also attack the bait. A small blade is attached by a swivel (the as for overhead arm spinnerbaits), but the wire frame is formed into a spring clip that opens to allow a jighead to be attached by sliding the jig eye into position such that the jig hook runs in the same direction as the overhead blade. Jighead dressings are on the short, more compact side and variable in material and design. The curl tail grub is popular, along with straight tail plastics and hair. The original jig dressing was called the cricket, a straight, double-tailed soft plastic creature that had little action except that it wagged up and down and side-to-side behind the spinning blade or with variations in retrieve speed. As the Beetle Spin became more popular, more designs were introduced and softer plastic was used for better action. Many species of fish will hit a Beetle Spin combo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weighinalimit Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 I was thinking braseing weld/tacking or soldering it to the eye loop Highly NOT recommended for this reason....hooks are heat tempered and the soldering/brazing/welding operation will remove the temper from the hook eye, making it soft enough to bend fairly easily. You'll wind up losing a big fish & getting your heart broke when the eye straightens out & your jig leaves the wire arm. Sorry to bust your idea, but I'd hate to see ya do all that work just to see it fail to hold your fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
circuit sniffer Posted April 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Highly NOT recommended for this reason....hooks are heat tempered and the soldering/brazing/welding operation will remove the temper from the hook eye, making it soft enough to bend fairly easily. You'll wind up losing a big fish & getting your heart broke when the eye straightens out & your jig leaves the wire arm. Sorry to bust your idea, but I'd hate to see ya do all that work just to see it fail to hold your fish. ok thank you for the info, but my i ask a ? What is the difference in leading the hook eye and wire arm would you not be doing the same thing then? just a ? im learning and trying to understand. and if it makes a difference i would not be heating the hook and wire arm rather the brazing rod/or solder and poring/driping molten media on to the two in the joint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
circuit sniffer Posted April 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 i would like to restate that i have ordered spinner jig heads to use. This was just a thought. I'm asking for input on the idea and am grateful for any and all tips/advice and been there scratch that's. I like to learn from my mistakes and i also like to go in knowing what im in for or a possible out come of my actions. I'm shore every good inventor did not get it the first try and many people said that's not possible and it may not have been but look at all the other great things that were. Again thank you for the ideas and help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBlaze Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 Actualy if you "wire" a spinner harness to a jig head you get a spinner bait with a little extra action ... really good with a curly tail grub. JSC Circuit Sniffer, About four years ago, I came up with this design for a spinner bait. Maybe this will help you. http://www.tackleunderground.com/community/index.php?app=gallery&module=images§ion=viewimage&img=198 I showed it to Robby (Jaw Jacker) Cochran. Robby told me it reminded him of a big Beetle Spin. It does have some similiarities and as JSC says about the Beetle Spin, it does have that little extra action and a different look that I think triggers the bite. I think it is one of the best spinnerbaits around for slow rolling or waking the surface. I am no rocket scientist but I think I am getting much stronger vibrations with this set-up because the weight is not on the wire absorbing those vibes. You could do as JSC says and attach a jig to a spinner bait wire by bending a small cross wise loop in the wire or by using a flat-eye jig and a verticle loop. I think you would like what you get. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
circuit sniffer Posted April 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 ok i like the looks of that. i am going to try playing around with all of the ideas, mybe i will stumble on to something good or i might fail miserably but ether way its the fun and experience I'm really after. so thanks again and keep the ideas coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...