MuskyGary Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 After seeing the new swim bait molds and how the core is put into them, wouldn't it be possible to do the same thing with a worm mold? Put the metal rod in plastic, put it in the worm mold and inject with plastic? I realize this would have to be another special made mode. The same thing could be done with craw molds, brush hog molds etc. For a crawfish mold the insert could be coated in color plastic, put in the mold, maybe give the claws a shot of clor , close the mold and inject! Could open up a whole bunch of molds, but remeber he who dies with the most toys wins! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainbutter Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 After seeing the new swim bait molds and how the core is put into them, wouldn't it be possible to do the same thing with a worm mold? Put the metal rod in plastic, put it in the worm mold and inject with plastic? I realize this would have to be another special made mode. The same thing could be done with craw molds, brush hog molds etc. For a crawfish mold the insert could be coated in color plastic, put in the mold, maybe give the claws a shot of clor , close the mold and inject! Could open up a whole bunch of molds, but remeber he who dies with the most toys wins! Do you want hollow worms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuskyGary Posted April 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Do you want hollow worms? Why not hollow worms? The idea is to make core shots easy and simple without having to pour that small tiny stream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Prager Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Why not hollow worms? The idea is to make core shots easy and simple without having to pour that small tiny stream. I think that's a great idea. Would make for some great floaters too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 (edited) There used to be a worm that was hollow about half way up from the tail. The idea of it was that on a jighead or a carolina rig the worm's tail would rise up because of the trapped air. I don't remember the name of the bait or company that made them. I think I got them from Cabela's some 15 years ago. They did work quite well though; they were just ahead of their time. www.novalures.com Edited April 8, 2010 by nova Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerworm Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 keep the salt out of the plastisol and most that is sold from the various lure sites is all floating plastic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carolinamike Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 Nova, there still is a worm in production today with a hollow chamber in the tail. It's called the Hag's Tornado and the Hag's Undertaker. We produce these baits for the company and not only is the idea to float the baits, but they also put scent and plug the hole with a small piece of cotton. And sometimes on bedding fish they put a little piece of Alka-Selzer in the chamber to make it bubble. You can do a search for his website if you'd like to look at them. Either one of the names above should put you to a link to his site. As far as the core shot goes, why not inject the core and the body at the same time instead of coming back to do the core? I saw a video of that being done on Bear's Baits. There's actually a special valve for my machine that does core shots and if I'm not mistaken, the mold itself has to be setup for a core shot, but we're talking about the big stuff here. But as much as these guys are playing with hand injectors, surely it wouldn't be too hard to come up with a core shot injector. Hmmm, wonder if the race is on now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gone2long Posted April 10, 2010 Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 Core shots have been reproduced quite effectively with the injectors already on the market, they pour the outer color out of a cup into the mold (not quite halfway) then inject the core which pushes the outer color throughout the mold making very nice looking baits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitbull Baits Posted April 10, 2010 Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 I think their is a video on Bears site on how to do core shots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 Well you could actually do it yourself. This I did today. What do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuskyGary Posted April 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 Looks good! Did you make the slot at the bottom of the worm for the wire to fit? That's the way I was thinking. Very nice work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 Looks good! Did you make the slot at the bottom of the worm for the wire to fit? That's the way I was thinking. Very nice work. Yes it was a vent that I put in it . I just made it larger. Great idea,Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dramone Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 (edited) they look cool. i guess the worms are "open" at the end. if so, how' do you prevent that the worms are sucking up water (osmose), or is this not an issue? do you dip the tail to close them? Edited April 13, 2010 by dramone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 (edited) Money MuskyGary and Frank!!!!!!! Does the hollow area make the baits tear easier in the worm body where the hook penetrates for rigging? This is a great idea for making floating worms as well. With the microbubbles, you are stuck making just a few colors due to the white shade of the additive. Good job guys!!!! Jim Edited April 13, 2010 by ghostbaits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 Money MuskyGary and Frank!!!!!!! Does the hollow area make the baits tear easier in the worm body where the hook penetrates for rigging? This is a great idea for making floating worms as well. With the microbubbles, you are stuck making just a few colors due to the white shade of the additive. Good job guys!!!! Jim Jim I dont know he posted it then I went out in the shop and modified my mold to try it. This has not been fished yet but this weekend it will. And yes I could dip the tail to seal it off or put scent in and leave it open. I think some of these molds are in the works as we speak. We will see in a few days what happens. This was not my idea and Musky should get the credit, I am the one who Took it a step farther than just talk. Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuskyGary Posted April 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 Thanks guys, I don't sell anything but was just looking for a way to make core shots quickly. I don't think the hollow belly would take on much water as the tail hole is very small. If it did take on water then it would have to leave a trail of air bubbles! Shooting a core this way opens up a lot of possibilites. First the core doesn't have to be one color. Dip the first four inches of the rod in chartruse; then on a second dip only put the first inch in red to look like blood! How about a craw mode where the rods ran through the claws and arms to the body? How about sweet beavers, brush hogs, and other jig trailers? Lots of new molds to be made,plus all the color combos that we can come up with. I don't know if it will catch any more fish, but it should catch a lot of fishermen! Hope all you bait makers can find something usefull out of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squigster Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 You can do this fairly easily except the worm would not have ribbing it would be smooth like a tube. Dip a 8" piece of coat hanger in on color the depth/length you want in a certain color (core) then dip it in the next color such as watermelon and you have a core shot worm. You dip it at different lengths like a basstrix minnow if you want the head of the worm fatter You will end up with a pointy tail which is good, with a core color and its hollow so it floats and you get great hook penetration. You can take a piece if light sheet metal and fold it in half and cut out a tail profile and JB weld it to the coat hanger at the length you want and get a worm with a tail on it. but the tail is open ended. I hope I explained this enough. I will try and post a pic tomorrow. I beleive Basstrix has a worm like this already. Loca Motion Worms by Basstrix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuskyGary Posted April 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 After you dip the wire twice, it goes in the worm mold and then you inject the plastic worm to make a true core shot worm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSC Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 they look cool. i guess the worms are "open" at the end. if so, how' do you prevent that the worms are sucking up water (osmose), or is this not an issue? do you dip the tail to close them? It will take on water ... as suggested you could dip with clear .. or .. heat the tip slightly to seal it. Now if you are going to fish it you are going to have to put a hook in it and now you have another "Leaker Spot" ... unless you run your hook thru the solid nose of the worm (Trailer style) so that it does not penetrate the cavity. Just some "Food" for thought JSC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Goehring Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 Um I'm just wondering. What if you make the metal rods in that worm mold extend through and out the top pour. Then you pour the bait. Remove the rods, plug the bottom, and inject into the hollow sections of the worms. Wouldn't that fix the air pocket? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 I think that it is being over thought out. If you have a hole that small is plastic it wont fill up unless there is two holes.And yes the hook will make two more but it will be sealed till you get bite then it dont matter cause it did its job. I guess I will have to go out and see if it does fill up. The rod I used was 1/16". The line in the bait is about 1/8. Any one feel free to put a hole in your mold and try it out so some feed back can be had. Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elf Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 On 4/14/2010 at 3:13 PM, Jordan Goehring said: Um I'm just wondering. What if you make the metal rods in that worm mold extend through and out the top pour. Then you pour the bait. Remove the rods, plug the bottom, and inject into the hollow sections of the worms. Wouldn't that fix the air pocket? In this case, don't make the rods go all the way through the bottom of the bait. Pour your first color from the top, let it set up a bit, pull the rods and shoot the mold. Done. In this case, I'm not sure how you would hold the rods in place other than making a jig that stands above the mold to hold the rods. Hmmm...maybe I need to think this through a bit more... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baitjunkys Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 LOL, Just 8 Years Late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elf Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 3 hours ago, Baitjunkys said: LOL, Just 8 Years Late. Funny how this was up on the front page...I didn't even check the date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
