orionn1 Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 I am trying to powder coat lead heads. I have two issues, one how do you prevent that little nipple of paint from forming on the nose and two what is the best way to keep the hook eye cleared. Should I use a tooth pick in it before dipping?. I usually push a tooth pick through after dipping but that usually is a little messy since the powder coat is still a little tacky. I have also just baked it with the eye cover and then used a little drill be to clear it but on small heads ie 1/4oz it is hard to find small enough bits to fit through the eyes. thanks for the help regards rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan S Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 Make yourself a fluid bed, or buy one on ebay. It will probably cure both your problems. An o-ring pick heated over a flame is what I use to clear any hook eyes that have excess powder in them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 Rob If you are getting nipples at the end of your jig after you bake them, you have way too much paint on your jig. The fluid bed is a good solution for single paint applications. If you start doing multi-color than you will have to learn how to put on less paint. To put on less paint don't overheat the jig and don't keep it in the powder paint too long. If you want to make a fluid bed, pm me your e-mail and I can send you instruction. If you want to buy one, support a TU member. His name is Benjamin and here is his link. http://www.tjstackle.com/ Benjamin has everything ready to work right out of the box. Really nice guy to do business with. As far as keeping hook eyes clean, I push a drill bit through a hot jig and it cleans the eyes perfectly. BTW they make drill bits down to .015. There is a drill bit for every jig hook eye out there. I know because I have them. They may be called jeweler's drill bits but they are readily available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cub48 Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 Sounds like you may be getting your jigs to hot and too much paint is sticking. Here is the way I do it. I use a heat gun its a cheap one from lowes to preheat my jigs hold the jig with a pair of pliers it just takes seconds then swish the head in the powder then tap the pliers on the side of the container. The powder is dull on the jig i hang it on a rack I do about 60 at a time slide the rack in a old toaster oven for 15 min they come out just right. Use a paint pen to paint the eye on (not hook eye). The eye I clean with an old hook just watch and don't stick your self. I may try heating the hook next time. You can also melt the powder on the jig with the heat gun but you have to watch or you can bubble the paint. I am new at this too but this way is working good for me. The only thing is I can do half a rack in the oven as with it the rack is too low and jigs hit if the rack was higher i could do over a 100, Cub48 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBK Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 1. Your jigs are too hot 2. You are putting too much paint on them. I just paint right over the eye then clear them with the clip eye cleaner thingamabobs before baking. http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10151_-1_10001_29673_100011000_100000000_100011000_100-11-0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orionn1 Posted May 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 Hey guys thanks for the info I am going to order the fluid bath from tj's at the end of the week. Never new about the fluid bath. and fyi it is a lot cheaper at tjtackle than at barlows which is where I usually order from. regards rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orionn1 Posted May 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 I ordered from tjtackle thanks again I will let you know how it turns out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBK Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 I ordered from tjtackle thanks again I will let you know how it turns out. Aw man I was going to tell you they are on ebay for $30. Oh well, TJ's is a great company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orionn1 Posted May 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 thnks bbk i need more powder paint anyways Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDSBYDAY Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 (edited) I am trying to powder coat lead heads. I have two issues, one how do you prevent that little nipple of paint from forming on the nose and two what is the best way to keep the hook eye cleared. Should I use a tooth pick in it before dipping?. I usually push a tooth pick through after dipping but that usually is a little messy since the powder coat is still a little tacky. I have also just baked it with the eye cover and then used a little drill be to clear it but on small heads ie 1/4oz it is hard to find small enough bits to fit through the eyes. thanks for the help regards rob I might be the only one that uses the hook eye as a clue to if the jig was too hot. If the temp is right I get full coverage with a painted but open eye. I don't use a fluid bed. I use an old cast iron griddle heated to about 350. Pile the jigs on and let them warm up. I grab one and slide it over the heat gun. Dip it and check the eye of the hook. If it's painted and open I just move along with the rest. If the eye has paint in it I skip the heat gun wave. When I pass it over the heat gun I try to hit the spot where I grabbed it with the hemostat. If I can get full coverage with a painted open eye I can hang them with little fear of a nipple. Black and white are the tough ones. For these I prefer to cure at a lower temp for longer. If in doubt-cure them hook down so you can break off the extra paint at the collar. Edited May 13, 2010 by DDSBYDAY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatman Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 I was lucky on another site and won a fluid bed 4 inch. After the two parties that ran it split the site I was worried I wasn't gonna get it but eventually did. Not only the 4 inch but also a small 2 inch, for all the time I had to wait getting it. Gotta get a good blower for it. I've seen fluid beds on ebay (I believe they're TJ's) but the biggest laugh I've gotten about it lately is some bozo is actually selling PLANS for making them for $4.95-$5.95. That's pretty nuts. Fatman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dutchman Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 I was lucky on another site and won a fluid bed 4 inch. After the two parties that ran it split the site I was worried I wasn't gonna get it but eventually did. Not only the 4 inch but also a small 2 inch, for all the time I had to wait getting it. Gotta get a good blower for it. I've seen fluid beds on ebay (I believe they're TJ's) but the biggest laugh I've gotten about it lately is some bozo is actually selling PLANS for making them for $4.95-$5.95. That's pretty nuts. Fatman How much powder paint do you put into a fluid bed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orionn1 Posted May 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 Ok got my fluid bath today and wow it is awesome. I will post some pictures soon. I put a base coat of white for my yellow glow in the dark heads. I had some nipples form still. what I did was heat with heat gun and then first dipped in white and replaced over heat gun and then re-dipped in yellow. Should I bake the white before putting the yellow on ? regards and thanks for all the help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBK Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 Ok got my fluid bath today and wow it is awesome. I will post some pictures soon. I put a base coat of white for my yellow glow in the dark heads. I had some nipples form still. what I did was heat with heat gun and then first dipped in white and replaced over heat gun and then re-dipped in yellow. Should I bake the white before putting the yellow on ? regards and thanks for all the help Two coats like that will almost always drip in the oven. If you do 2 or more coats you have to stand the jig upright in the oven, don't hang them. If you have paint run down the hook shaft you can get it off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 Ok got my fluid bath today and wow it is awesome. I will post some pictures soon. I put a base coat of white for my yellow glow in the dark heads. I had some nipples form still. what I did was heat with heat gun and then first dipped in white and replaced over heat gun and then re-dipped in yellow. Should I bake the white before putting the yellow on ? regards and thanks for all the help orion, In order to get multiple colors on a painted jig you have to put on thin coats and I mean thin. If you look at my avatar that has (6) different colors of powder paint on there. The jig is baked with it hanging by the hook head down as a mater of fact all my jigs and spinnerbaits are baked that way. You do not need to bake after each color, except when colors change from cross-linking. You have to learn heat-up time of jig versus how long to keep the hot jig in the powder. This will take some practice even when you use a fluid bed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...