mainbutter Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 I was wondering about if anybody pours two-sided molds in multiple colors. I've done laminates by pouring one side before putting both sides of the mold together and filling the cavity from the top, but I was wondering if anyone does anything that imitates two-color injection and swirls. Is there any such product as a pyrex cup with a divider than can hold two colors and pour out the same spout? I wonder if that'd be worth looking into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pickeralpete Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 search divided cup an make one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 I hand pour thousands of laminate baits a week. The great thing about keeping the mold closed, other than it saves a huge amount of time vs opening the mold and then closing and pouring, is that you get a true laminate throughout the bait. With pouring a mold and then closing, you only get a laminate for part of the bait with many molds. The laminates hand poured with a divided cup look as good as any injection laminate made. Just be fore warned that eventually your cup will spark in the mic if you make one as in the threads you find here. The microwave wears the metal down and will spark on the sides of the metal you cut for your cup. It takes time but every cup I have done this way eventually has sparked and some have shattered. Use caution if you are going to use these cups in production settings. I have gone another route. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRegulator Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 I took the information from the prex cup divide and made a couple for the aluminum pans. I heat the plastic up in the pans on a burner. I took aluminum sheet metal from Home depot and cut it the appropriate size with tin snips. Used JB weld to fasten it in the pouring pan. It has produced excellent laminates for me on personal use level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerfire Posted August 30, 2010 Report Share Posted August 30, 2010 Just be fore warned that eventually your cup will spark in the mic if you make one as in the threads you find here. The microwave wears the metal down and will spark on the sides of the metal you cut for your cup. It takes time but every cup I have done this way eventually has sparked and some have shattered. Use caution if you are going to use these cups in production settings. I have gone another route. Is there a better and/or safer way of pouring laminates? I am still trying to get a good laminate. Swirls seems to be much easier than a good laminate for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gone2long Posted August 30, 2010 Report Share Posted August 30, 2010 Well you've listed two ways but as far as ease & safety well injection is just that, but you will need to make that investment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallmouthaholic Posted August 31, 2010 Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 Well you've listed two ways but as far as ease & safety well injection is just that, but you will need to make that investment. If ya wanna play,ya gotta pay. Hand poured laminates for the hobbyist-injection for the commercial producer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted August 31, 2010 Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 If ya wanna play,ya gotta pay. Hand poured laminates for the hobbyist-injection for the commercial producer. Tell Roboworms, Hurricane Worms, Conquistidor Tackle, etc that hand pouring laminates is for hobbyist??? Please..... Even Strike King and other major guys have a line of HAND POURED laminate baits... If you don't have experience hand pouring then injection is the way to go but it is NOT for just the hobbyist. I am still waiting to see hand injection do Aaron's Magic, margarita mutilator, and the multitude of 3 color laminates available and wanted by anglers. Not trying to start a fight as I hand inject hundreds of baits a week now, just saying that a blanket statement like that would be like saying guys that hand inject just do it because they can't hand pour. Both statement are not true. Jim 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rugbyfisherman Posted August 31, 2010 Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 I don't have a divided cup or injector and I have been trying to make some side-by-side laminates stick worms and they just don't turn out . I have tried razor splitting a full worm and pouring the other half or taking the mold apart and pouring half then replacing the other side and pouring in the empty half - it is just that the empty side is so tiny...if the plastic touches the edges of the mold near the top the entire worm is wrecked! Any helpful advice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted August 31, 2010 Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 The trick on those is to not pour up all the way to the sprue hole so close or so full. There may be a little extra of one color on the end but if you just taper your pour by the sprue so there is just a littl plastic, it will be easier to hit that tiny hole. Also be sure your plastic is a bit warmer so the stream is tiny. You will need that little extra heat to get the sides to laminate good as well. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo D Posted August 31, 2010 Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 Robo spent lots of money on those awesome machines that pours those laminates and patterns now. It is difficult to do most if not all of those by hand. It takes a lot skill that only a few have mastered like Jim and a few others. With practice and some imagination you can do some of these things. If you need help pouring a smaller stream, a Lee pot can be helpful for the usteady hand. I would also use less salt or none at all if i were to pour those. I would also modify the pot for more consistent temperature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Prager Posted August 31, 2010 Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 Not trying to start a fight as I hand inject hundreds of baits a week now, just saying that a blanket statement like that would be like saying guys that hand inject just do it because they can't hand pour. Both statement are not true. Jim But those who can't (or even tried) handpouring, can inject! Not trying to start a fight either, but most guys who inject have never even seen an open pour mold. Never thought I would say this, but you might be placed on the Endangered Hand Pourers List, Jim! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted September 1, 2010 Report Share Posted September 1, 2010 But those who can't (or even tried) handpouring, can inject! Not trying to start a fight either, but most guys who inject have never even seen an open pour mold. Never thought I would say this, but you might be placed on the Endangered Hand Pourers List, Jim! Hope so Richard. Demand will increase and supply will be short. Will be nice to get a few more bucks for the baits that are poured by hand. Might be able to coax Chris back out of retirement... LOL!!! Another reason why I love hand injection!!! Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rugbyfisherman Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 Thanks Jim, The hand pour side-by-side pour tips really helped. I poured about 100. I am getting the hang of the tricks, it really makes a huge difference. I was super frustrated at first but now they are easy - just a bit time consuming but not actually too bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
