Flyman Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 I was thinking of blending/grinding a couple skip jacks and skimming the oil from the top of the mixture after it sits for awhile. I was wondering if any one has tried something similar before. Will the oil be okay to mix with plastisol? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 Get your hands on fresh herring(enough to fill a 5 gal bucket). Add some coarse salt, maybe 5 lbs. Put the cover on tight and set the bucket in a place where it will get as much sun as it can. Just make sure it's outside;lol. By the end of summer the oils from the herring will float to the surface. If you can't get herring; any oily fish will do; bluefish, mackeral etc. www.novalures.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesse1378 Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 if you are married that might not go over too well lol. garlic flavored pam is a cheap alternative to all the spray on scents. if you do make your own good luck and let us know how it turns out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Does the water in homemade scents present a problem? I was told not to let water near my plastics, because it would turn to steam when heated and cause real problems. I know it's true with lead. Is that true with plastics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSC Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Does the water in homemade scents present a problem? I was told not to let water near my plastics, because it would turn to steam when heated and cause real problems. I know it's true with lead. Is that true with plastics? Mark it is true of Plastic .... NO WATER JSC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Mark it is true of Plastic .... NO WATER JSC Does that mean that homemade scents need to be strictly oil based? Does heating them past boiling to drive off the water before you use them work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Always oil only. WIth the homemade scent I suggested above you have to scoop the oil off the top of the water then heat it to get rid of the water. After that you should be left with only the oil. www.novalures.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthworm77 Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 You can't have any water in the mixture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Always oil only. WIth the homemade scent I suggested above you have to scoop the oil off the top of the water then heat it to get rid of the water. After that you should be left with only the oil. www.novalures.com Forgive a "dumb" question, but would the oil from sardines or tuna packed in oil work? I always drain off the oil, and it would be great if it could be used for scent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Forgive a "dumb" question, but would the oil from sardines or tuna packed in oil work? I always drain off the oil, and it would be great if it could be used for scent. I think you'll find that there is still some water in that as well. www.novalures.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthworm77 Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 I think you'll find that there is still some water in that as well. www.novalures.com I agree, if you want to just marinate the finished baits with this type of mix, no problem.....but if there is any water in a mix you add to hot plastic........snap crackle pop! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallie Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 So couldn't you heat the sardine oil like Nova suggested with the herring oil extraction in the post above? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 So couldn't you heat the sardine oil like Nova suggested with the herring oil extraction in the post above? You sure could but the amount of oil in one can of sardines is not going to be much. You would have to "save" the oil from quite a few cans to make it worth while. www.novalures.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rugbyfisherman Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 This may be a noob question but, i just bought some scents from upperhandscents, should I add the scent before or after heating the plastic? I am assuming before so you don't get spits from the cool oil in the hot plastic. Also do I need a full face mask like in chemistry class, or would safety glasses work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 I think you'll find that there is still some water in that as well. www.novalures.com Drat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 Dougs scents are all oil based I believe and can be added into your hot plastic with no issue at all. I would review the product you bought on his site as he outlines the uses well. If not, drop him a note, he is a great guy! Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayouBuz Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 I was thinking of blending/grinding a couple skip jacks and skimming the oil from the top of the mixture after it sits for awhile. I was wondering if any one has tried something similar before. Will the oil be okay to mix with plastisol? Try using cod liver oil. Been using it in saltwater baits for many years and it works great. You will find that a small amount is best. I also mix a little with anise for my freshwater baits. Best way to add scent is when plastic is melted and ready to pour.Just stir in a teaspoon of scent per half pint of plastic. Works for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toadfrog Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 Heck , pard just go to a pharmacy and get you a bottle of anise oil (its licorice just like candy) few drops in a bag of worms grubs ect. soaks right in works great. Don't carry the oil in you tackle box. Game wardens don't like that if'n ya know what I mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthworm77 Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 as long as you are sure there is no water in the sardine oil....then you could add it......but how can you really be sure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyman Posted June 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2010 I blended the skip jacks and put them in a bucket with water and salt. I scoop the fat and oil from the top after a few days in the backyard; It smelled, and I got green. I put the fat and oil in skillet trying to get rid of the water. Did this probably 5 times, the whole neighborhood stunk of fish. Mix the oil/fat with hot plastisol, and I got small bubbles in the plastic. The plastisol smells like fish, but the lure has some bubbles. I might try this again, but I'll use a pressure cooker to remove the water. Actually, I'm just going to use scented oils next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...