Frank Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 There is a new injection machine that looks pretty impressive. Bears Baits just revealed the new machine from Britt his mold maker. Looks like a winner. Check it out he has some videos out with it working and some final baits. Hope this is not considered spam cause I have no afiliation with Bear just want people to know about a new product that can put the small guy up there with the big guys. Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo D Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 There is a new injection machine that looks pretty impressive. Bears Baits just revealed the new machine from Britt his mold maker. Looks like a winner. Check it out he has some videos out with it working and some final baits. Hope this is not considered spam cause I have no afiliation with Bear just want people to know about a new product that can put the small guy up there with the big guys. Frank Yes Frank, it looks like a winner and a game changer for the small guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 Do you have a link? I just went on their site, and couldn't find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 Great machine, congratulations Bear. Here's a link to the video thread: http://www.bearsbaits.net/forum/index.php?topic=3053.0 Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bojon Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 Great machine, congratulations Bear. Here's a link to the video thread: http://www.bearsbaits.net/forum/index.php?topic=3053.0 Dave Great.Really looks well thought out.Great job,great baits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Prager Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 Yes Frank, it looks like a winner and a game changer for the small guys. I hope it comes with a list of good Divorce Lawyers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 Great machine, congratulations Bear. Here's a link to the video thread: http://www.bearsbaits.net/forum/index.php?topic=3053.0 Dave Thanks Dave. Do you know how much they will cost? Not that I'm going to be buying one. I'm just curious. I will never get into that kind of production, but it looks like a great machine, with a lot of time and work involved to sort out all the problems ahead of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 No idea what the cost will be, but judging from Bears past products, I am sure it will be a bargain. Someone guessed at $3000, my guess would be closer to $5000. A lot depends on what parts can be sourced ready made and what parts need to be specially made. I think it is all down to what is inside the heat exchangers. I think it is a great design, because you don't have to wait for 5 gallons of plastic to heat up. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerworm Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 i guess 2700-3200 but me down for a 1.00 on it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carolinamike Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 I talked with Bear a little bit today. He's real excited about the new machine. I've watched the video and I feel this is going to be a great product to add to the market. The heat exchangers are a little different than pouring pots, you can't leave them idle too long and when going from one color to another, you'll have to do clean out shots. They'll still be good baits, you'll just have to make a few to get the next color through all the way and with the right flake. The thing about it is this is definitely an injection machine, and not a pouring pot. They've thought this thing through pretty good, and I love the way that your hands are completely clear when the plastic is shooting, and it does have some of the same characteristics as the big super expensive machines. One being that you can hold continual pressure on the bait while it cools. This does a lot toward helping eliminate shrinkage dimples. For the guys that want to pick up production, this is going to help. You'll still need a good many molds though. It's definitely a step up, and I think the price is going to be somehwere between $2500 - $3000, but don't quote me on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 i guess 2700-3200 That is a great price for this kit. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gone2long Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 Just an update the price has been posted on Bear's site and looks good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 WOW!!!!!! Looks good!!!! Start saving those nickels for machine and LOTS of molds!!!!! Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBK Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 (edited) Units with no pressure pots Base 1 color unit with no pressure pot $2125.00 Base 2 color Unit with No pressure pots $2750.00 Complete Units These prices are based on 2.5 Pressure pot setup for 1 gallon buckets for storing plastic. complete setup for 2 color system is $3500.00 This will have 2 Pressure Pots with Stirring systems complete setup for single color system is $2500.00 This will have 1 Pressure Pot with stirring system. ADD On 2nd Color unit $750.00 2.5 Gallon Pressure pot with stirring system $375.00 Edited July 22, 2010 by BBK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerworm Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 well i missed it by 300.00 on the high side from what i had discussed last march with bear...oh well it wont stop me and melly from getting 1 thats for sure!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted July 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 well i missed it by 300.00 on the high side from what i had discussed last march with bear...oh well it wont stop me and melly from getting 1 thats for sure!! Pretty easy decision when you have as many molds as you do. Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcl58 Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 he hit a home run with that little jewel, that would be a perfect set up for custom shoots with prototype molds, and single molds. what is the exchanger volume, pound or less, are more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 I wonder if multiple cavtiy molds will become available. Pricing sure is right on these machines!!!! Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 I was more wondering about the port at the end of the mold and having multiple cavities (ie 10/20 cavities). Seems the lamination process would not be as efficient as if the port was moved to the center of the mold. Hate to have to buy 100 single cavity molds vs 10-10 cavity molds. I am sure they have thought all that through though. The design seems very well thought out. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted July 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 I was more wondering about the port at the end of the mold and having multiple cavities (ie 10/20 cavities). Seems the lamination process would not be as efficient as if the port was moved to the center of the mold. Hate to have to buy 100 single cavity molds vs 10-10 cavity molds. I am sure they have thought all that through though. The design seems very well thought out. Jim That would depend on the recovery time to heat the plastic for the next mold. In theary it seems to be better but the machine might not be able to keep up with that demand. Did bear not say he was not going to make bigger molds in the last video? My sound on my computer is not that great. I wish He would visit this site and maybe answer some of these questions. Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 I never watched the last video Frank. Maybe he did plan on that. I was mostly interested in how a laminate might work in a multi-cavity mold, especially past 3 cavities. I am sure that 1 cavity molds will be the way to go until the bugs get worked out. I never go to Bear's site so maybe these answers are even on his forum. I got an email from a friend with the video links from You Tube. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 Jim, this is more of a mold design problem, rather than the injection machines problem. My thoughts are that more generous distribution ports would preserve the lamination. The down side would be more wasted plastic. The big plus with this machine, is that it provides individual temperature control for each pot. This will allow for fine tuning the laminate. This machine is a big step forward and I am sure that mold design will follow to suit. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 Jim, this is more of a mold design problem, rather than the injection machines problem. Agreed. It looks as though the port that deliver the plastic would have to be on the side of the mold at the end of the mold. Just speculation though. I guess a mold could be made with 2 cavities and 2 ports. Fill one side, flip mold around and fill the other side. Just thinking out loud.... Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass-Boys Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 Yes, he did say there would be larger cavity molds avail.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedfish Posted July 24, 2010 Report Share Posted July 24, 2010 Enjoyed reading your posts. Any guess as to how much molds cost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
