stevethetecher Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 I'm trying to make either black/blue laminates or swirls but am having difficulty. When I do other colors they are usually fine, but for some reason the black/blue combo isn't working. The colors blend together rather than remaining separated as desired. The temps are almost dead-on. Could it be the recipe? In general, should I use more of darker colors and less of lighter ones? Any feedback would be appreciated. I do have a cust. awaiting for the completion of this order, so I'd appreciate any help as soon as I can get it. Thanks!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhorlings Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 I'm trying to make either black/blue laminates or swirls but am having difficulty. When I do other colors they are usually fine, but for some reason the black/blue combo isn't working. The colors blend together rather than remaining separated as desired. The temps are almost dead-on. Could it be the recipe? In general, should I use more of darker colors and less of lighter ones? Any feedback would be appreciated. I do have a cust. awaiting for the completion of this order, so I'd appreciate any help as soon as I can get it. Thanks!!! If you have some white color put a few drops in the blue but go one drop at a time until you get the effect you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 I would say go with some blue pearl to get a real bright blue hue. Then you will see the color differance well. Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jig Man Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 I can see where you would have problems with both of those colors together. I have had the same trouble with chartreuse and white swirls. They just don't work for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carolinamike Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 Steve, the problem is with the coloring but it's not what you think. Most likely the problem is with your temperatures being equal. Confusing isn't it? Not really, darker colors, by nature, absorb more heat. So when you're laminating black you almost always have to let the black be a little bit colder than the other color. Pearl colors are also bad about blending or wrapping when trying to laminate. The pearl makes the plastic absorb and hold the heat. Salt will also do this. So it's not only time, temperature and pressure, but also the nature of the coloring. As far as a swirl goes (also known as pulse laminate), the way this is usually achieved, is by shooting one color and then the other. In other words, you pulse the colors. Get you a real good stop watch and time one color and then the other. You're probably going to get down to the tenths of a second. But what you're shooting for is the same time every shot to get a half way consistent bait. But as far as a regular laminate goes, start out with your black one or two degrees colder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerworm Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 when i shoot my craws, kodiaks and stick baits in black/blue i run the blue straight m-f non-bleed blue and i keep it hotter than the black and they seem to come out great when i make them and let my customers know i have a couple thousand done they are gone that weekend...pw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 I'm trying to make either black/blue laminates or swirls but am having difficulty. When I do other colors they are usually fine, but for some reason the black/blue combo isn't working. The colors blend together rather than remaining separated as desired. The temps are almost dead-on. Could it be the recipe? In general, should I use more of darker colors and less of lighter ones? Any feedback would be appreciated. I do have a cust. awaiting for the completion of this order, so I'd appreciate any help as soon as I can get it. Thanks!!! Are you pouring from a split cup? If you are temp differances are not going to be possible. You will have to adjust with color. As suggested make your blue much brighter; either with a little blue pearl or with super blue highlight. You can also add some large blue flake to help. www.novalures.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevethetecher Posted August 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 I added two drops of white and dropped my black temp a few degrees. Viola`...success!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhorlings Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 I added two drops of white and dropped my black temp a few degrees. Viola`...success!!! Glad to hear it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...