Spinnerbait Wire Question

[mark poulson]

One of my favorite spinnerbaits, the Revenge deep runner, has a wire the breaks after a couple of dozen fish.

Right at the R bend. By that time, I've had to straighten it out a dozen times, or so. I haven't really counted how many fish it takes to break the wire, but now I have half a dozen Revenge chatterbaits, made from spinnerbaits that broke.

My question is why this brand, and not some of the others?

I know there is a reason they use that particular wire. Ray, the guy who makes them, is super anal about his baits and components, and doesn't use anything without a reason.

But I can't figure out why his wires break, and others, like Strike King and Stanley, don't seem to, at least not as often or as fast.

In trying to figure it out, I've guessed that the wire they use has a higher carbon content, to add to it's rigidity and vibration, so it's probably more prone to metal fatigue. Of course, that's just a carpenter's wild a$$ed guess.

Any light shed on the subject would be appreciated.

[Munkin]

One of my favorite spinnerbaits, the Revenge deep runner, has a wire the breaks after a couple of dozen fish.

Right at the R bend. By that time, I've had to straighten it out a dozen times, or so. I haven't really counted how many fish it takes to break the wire, but now I have half a dozen Revenge chatterbaits, made from spinnerbaits that broke.

My question is why this brand, and not some of the others?

I know there is a reason they use that particular wire. Ray, the guy who makes them, is super anal about his baits and components, and doesn't use anything without a reason.

But I can't figure out why his wires break, and others, like Strike King and Stanley, don't seem to, at least not as often or as fast.

In trying to figure it out, I've guessed that the wire they use has a higher carbon content, to add to it's rigidity and vibration, so it's probably more prone to metal fatigue. Of course, that's just a carpenter's wild a$$ed guess.

Any light shed on the subject would be appreciated.

I would say metal fatigue is the main cause. He maybe using a different metal blend in the wire but most likely he just uses a smaller guage wire. In my own baits I use .032 super stainless which gets mangled after awhile but I feel it catches more fish. If I can find my deep runner I will put the calipers to it and see what size wire it is.

On a side note have you tried wrapping some thread, wire, etc. on the R-bend right behind the knot? If they are really hitting the bait hard I do this to prevent over flexing of the R-bend which is the weakest spot in the wire initially.

Allen

Edited August 24, 2010 by Munkin

[smalljaw]

It breaks because it more than likely has a thinner wire diameter. Strike king and most other mass produced baits use .040 or .041 diamter wire which creates a more durable bait but it does cut down on the vibration, I used to use .032 wire but I moved up to .035, a little more vibration with the .032 but a little more durable with the .035, I'm not sure about the bait you're using but I'd bet it does have a smaller wire diameter than most.

[mark poulson]

The wire being thinner makes sense. I know Ray is all about performance, so I'm guessing he uses the thinnest wire he can get away with, for the additional vibration.

Thanks a lot guys.